Monday, August 29, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1584

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Dashing Danes undo England
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
2. Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
3. Re: James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
4. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
5. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
6. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
7. Re: Management games?
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
8. Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
9. Re: Dashing Danes undo England
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:08:50 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dashing Danes undo England

He was fine untill he went to liverpool, at coventry he was amazing

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> ive not seen him fit long enough to prove that. hes injured too often!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > IMO Kirkland is the best we have when fit.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > robert green (norwich) and chris kirkland (liverpool - on loan
to west
> > > brom)
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > I mostly saw James when he was at Liverpool and he never
> impressed me.
> > > >
> > > > So, if Robinson is England's nr1
> > > > Who should be nr 2 and 3?
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > i wish david james would never play for england again. sven is
> just
> > > > a
> > > > > twat really. he just loses some sense sometimes. he starts
> defoe so
> > > > he
> > > > > can form a partnership with rooney before the wales
> game......so he
> > > > > takes him off at half time so owen can get some match fitness?
> makes
> > > > > perfect sense. i dont care really as i dont want him getting
> > > > injured.
> > > > > just sven makes such shitty tactical decisions! when things go
> his
> > > > way
> > > > > hes fine. but if the opposition attack our weaknesses then hes
> > > > > clueless. he doesnt know what to do to counteract it. bring
me in
> > > > charge!
> > > > >
> > > > > nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Denmark 4-1 England
> > > > > >
> > > > > > England suffered their heaviest defeat since losing 4-1
against
> > > > Wales
> > > > > > in 1980, as Denmark swept Sven-Göran Eriksson's team aside
> by the
> > > > > > same scoreline in Copenhagen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Goal glut
> > > > > > Three goals in seven second-half minutes did the damage,
> after an
> > > > > > even opening period. Denmark took the lead on the hour when
> David
> > > > > > James, a second-half substitute for No1 Paul Robinson,
> rushed out
> > > > of
> > > > > > his goal only to be rounded by Jon Dahl Tomasson who squared
> the
> > > > ball
> > > > > > for Dennis Rommedahl to tap in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Danish delight
> > > > > > Rommedahl's strike was the catalyst for Denmark to turn on
the
> > > > style
> > > > > > and they added a second three minutes later as Claus Jensen
> sent
> > > > a
> > > > > > ball across the face of goal for Tomasson to register. A
> stunned
> > > > > > England conceded a third on 67 minutes, defender Michael
> > > > Gravgaard
> > > > > > demonstrating his aerial prowess to head in from a corner.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rooney consolation
> > > > > > Morten Olsen's side controlled the majority of the second
half,
> > > > > > though the visitors did reduce the deficit with their first
> > > > > > opportunity of this spell when Wayne Rooney latched on to
David
> > > > > > Beckham's through-ball to score with three minutes remaining.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Turkish test
> > > > > > However, Denmark deservedly had the last word. Søren Larsen
> slid
> > > > the
> > > > > > ball past James in added time for the home team's fourth
> goal to
> > > > > > leave them full of confidence ahead of their crucial
qualifier
> > > > with
> > > > > > Turkey on 3 September.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ************************************
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are red, we are white, we are anish dynamite!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go James :p

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:11:51 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN

yep, needed a oaultry 129 to win and lose 7 wickets! should have won
convincingly like in the 2nd test but nearly fucked that up! and if it
wasnt but for 1 wicket in the 3rd we would already have the ashes!
Mind you if are wicket keeper new how to keep wicket and catch the
ball, we probably could have won all 4

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> yeah a good win. typical england made a meal of getting 129, but we
> did it in the end. now only need a draw at the oval and we got the
> series. u can shove that up ur arse u convicts!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > England 477 (A Flintoff 102, G O Jones 85, M E Trescothick 65, M P
> > Vaughan 58, S K Warne 4-102) & 129-7 (S K Warne 4-31) v Australia 218
> > (S P Jones 5-44) & 387 (J L Langer 61, S M Katich 59, M J Clarke 56)
> > England beat Australia by 3 wkts
> >
> > If the ending to the previous Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford were
> > tense almost beyond belief, there was something of the surreal about
> > England's three wicket victory here at Trent Bridge.
> >
> > Set just 129 to win the fourth Test, England stuttered and stumbled to
> > their target after Shane Warne and Brett Lee had given Australia hope
> > when all seemed lost.
> >
> > But ultimately it was Matthew Hoggard and Ashley Giles the batsmen who
> > carried England to victory, meaning they take a 2-1 lead to the final
> > Test at The Oval in 11 days' time needing only a draw to win the Ashes
> > that were lost here in 1989.
> >
> > If you rolled the Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford into one you
> > still wouldn't get the drama and tension created at the end of this
> > fourth day in Nottingham.
> >
> > The England bowlers strained every sinew to chip away at the
> > Australian batting line-up and they were finally dismissed by tea-time
> > for 387 having resumed on 222-4.
> >
> > At the end Hoggard cracked six off one over of Lee's before Giles
> > nudged it for two off Warne to give England the win.
> >
> > No-one thought it would be easy but when Warne broke through with his
> > first delivery it was clear England and their fans were set for an
> > uncomfortable afternoon.
> >
> > Openers Marcus Trescothick and Andrew Strauss put on 32 with few
> > alarms but the introduction of Warne after just five overs almost
> > changed the game and the very destination of the Ashes.
> >
> > Trescothick hit four fours in a 22-ball 27, but fell to Warne's first
> > ball, reaching forward and bat-padding the ball to Ricky Ponting, who
> > held on to a superb low catch.
> >
> > England added just another four runs before skipper Michael Vaughan
> > became Warne's next victim, a leading edge pouched by Matthew Hayden
> > at first slip.
> >
> > A 21-run stand between Ian Bell and Strauss ended when the Middlesex
> > left-hander glanced a Warne delivery to Michael Clarke at leg slip,
> > the third umpire agreeing that the Australian did indeed scoop the
> > ball up before it hit the ground.
> >
> > Australia had the sniff of a remarkable victory moments later without
> > another run added, as Bell was tempted into a hook shot off Lee's
> > bouncer and Michael Kasprowicz held on at fine leg to reduce the hosts
> > to 57-4.
> >
> > Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Flintoff put on 46 together to get England
> > to within touching distance of victory, but there was more drama to
> come.
> >
> > Lee was reintroduced with just 26 needed for victory he immediately
> > tempted Pietersen into a loose drive, Adam Gilchrist holding a fine
> > tumbling catch.
> >
> > Flintoff and Geraint Jones put on a further eight together before Lee
> > produced a superb inswinging delivery that clipped the top of
> > Flintoff's off stump.
> >
> > With 13 still to get Jones was tempted down the pitch by Warne and
> > miscued an attempt to hit over the top, Kasprowicz calmly taking the
> > catch at deep cover.
> >
> > That brought Matthew Hoggard to the wicket and the Yorkshire seamer
> > was the coolest man in Nottingham. He carved out an unbeaten - and
> > chanceless eight - and left it up to Giles to win the match with an on
> > drive off Warne.
> >
> > Hoggard had earlier got the important breakthrough just before lunch
> > and again in his second over after the interval as Australia began to
> > lose wickets as they endeavoured to set England a testing target.
> >
> > The Yorkshire seamer induced an edge from Michael Clarke (56) 10
> > minutes before lunch to boost England's morale after a difficult
> > morning session as Australia went in at 270-5.
> >
> > And with just seven runs added to the score, dangerman Adam Gilchrist
> > played round a straight ball and was trapped in front by a ball that
> > pitched on leg stump and went straight on.
> >
> > Clarke had edged Giles past Trescothick on the way to a patient
> > half-century with Simon Katich remaining steadfast at the other end.
> >
> > But Clarke, who had not been tempted to attack England's defensive
> > strategy throughout the morning, finally followed an outswinger having
> > reached 56 and Jones gleefully snapped up the chance.
> >
> > England had been frustrated in the absence of much movement with the
> > old ball, particularly with Simon Jones off the field with an ankle
> > injury.
> >
> > However, the new ball gave England renewed hope and Katich could have
> > been run out by Flintoff as he set off for a suicidal run, but the
> > bowler missed the stumps with Katich out of his ground.
> >
> > Gilchrist had signalled his intent with two boundaries in nine minutes
> > before lunch, but England had his measure once again.
> >
> > Katich (59) then passed his half-century off 160 balls as he continued
> > to take the fight to the hosts but was out soon after in one of the
> > more unsatisfactory moments of the match - umpire Aleem Dar giving him
> > out lbw despite the ball from Steve Harmison pitching outside leg
> > stump and hitting him above the roll.
> >
> > It was an important wicket for the toiling bowlers with the Aussies
> > starting to build their lead.
> >
> > Warne came to the crease on a pair but he played with his usual
> > abandon, hitting five fours and two sixes in his innings of 45 from 42
> > balls before he went for one hit too many off Ashley Giles, Jones
> > doing the stumping.
> >
> > Kasprowicz frustrated England in a partnership of 31 with Lee before
> > he nicked Harmison to Jones, and Shaun Tait left Lee, who had been
> > dropped by the gloveman on nought, stranded on 26 not out when he left
> > his stumps exposed for Harmison to clean him up.
> >
> > So England were set 129 for victory, one they surely deserved. And now
> > to the Brit Oval a week on Thursday with just a draw needed to regain
> > the Ashes.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > OK OK
> >
> > cricket? whats that but we aint come close to winning the ashes since
> > we last won them and before this series hadnt beaten the ausys in a
> > test for over 15 years or somthing like that.

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:24:43 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably another 1 cap wonder

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> good riddance james and johnson. but hmm warnock called up? why?
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > David James has paid the price for his poor display in England's 4-1
> > defeat in Denmark as he was axed by Sven-Goran Eriksson for England's
> > forthcoming World Cup qualifiers against Wales and Northern Ireland.
> >
> > The Manchester City custodian let in all four goals in England's
> > defeat in Copenhagen and has now been replaced by West Brom's Chris
> > Kirkland.
> >
> > Eriksson insists it is not the end of the line for James, but admitted
> > his display in the Three Lions' recent defeat had prompted him to look
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > "I have spoken to David James today and explained to him that, on this
> > occasion, I think it's best not to select him," stated the England
> chief.
> >
> > "He has always been extremely professional for me and I have assured
> > him that the door is not closed, and that I will be monitoring his
> > form at Manchester City very closely.
> >
> > "Chris Kirkland is a brilliant prospect who has suffered badly with
> > injuries, but he is now started playing regularly again, so I feel the
> > time is right to have a good look at him."
> >
> > Also dropped is Chelsea's Glen Johnson, but there is a surprise first
> > call-up for Liverpool starlet Stephen Warnock.
> >
> > Charlton's Luke Young replaces Johnson in the squad and could deputize
> > for the injured Gary Neville, although brother Phil and Liverpool's
> > Jamie Carragher are other options Eriksson will consider at
right-back.
> >
> > "Right-back is an issue," the Swede continued. "I know Jamie Carragher
> > and Phil Neville don't play for their clubs but they can do the job.
> > Luke Young is also doing very well at the moment."
> >
> > Charlton's Darren Bent keeps his place in the 22-man squad following
> > his explosive start to the Premiership campaign while Crystal Palace's
> > Andy Johnson is also brought back into the international fold after
> > missing out against Denmark through injury.
> >
> > Michael Owen is selected despite being suspended for the Wales game,
> > but there is no place for Alan Smith who opted to sit out the Denmark
> > game in favour of improving his fitness with Manchester United's
> reserves.
> >
> > Despite the snub, Eriksson claims Smith is still under consideration,
> > adding: "Alan Smith is always in my thoughts.
> >
> > "I know (Sir Alex) Ferguson is trying to make him a holding midfielder
> > and that won't happen overnight.
> >
> > "I hope for him and England he will be successful. You have to
> > consider him a centre-forward but also a midfielder."
> >
> > Liverpool's Steven Gerrard and Chelsea captain John Terry are both
> > included in the squad despite carrying injuries.
> >
> > Full squad: Robinson (Tottenham), Green (Norwich), Kirkland
> > (Liverpool); Young (Charlton), Warnock (Liverpool), P Neville
> > (Everton), A Cole (Arsenal), Carragher (Liverpool), Ferdinand (Man
> > Utd), Terry (Chelsea), Upson (Birmingham), Beckham (Real Madrid),
> > Gerrard (Liverpool), Lampard (Chelsea), J Cole (Chelsea), Hargreaves
> > (Bayern Munich), Wright-Phillips (Chelsea), Jenas (Newcastle), Carrick
> > (Tottenham), Richardson (Man Utd); Owen* (Real Madrid), Rooney (Man
> > Utd), Defoe (Tottenham), A Johnson (Crystal Palace), Bent (Charlton)
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > aint that a shame :-(
> > im so sad to see him go!
> >
> >
> > WUHAHAHAHAHA!!!! the tosser should not have played since the austria
> > fuck up.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:25:43 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

No ;) but im sure Nick can

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> That is very funny! Can you make such jokes about Villa too? :))
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > So that makes 2 in total!
> >
> > get some mates round and the ground will be full ;-)
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > Stoke just got another fan then. :)))
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is
full
> > > > of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> > > > Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> > > > stadium :)
> > > >
> > > > No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
> > > >
> > > > I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager
and
> > > > few Belgian players ;)
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more
after
> > > > this
> > > > > season :))
> > > > >
> > > > > nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > > > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > > > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
> and
> > > > i am
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
> wiser......yeah
> > > > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:32:27 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I know I was taking the piss again ;-)

I rekon a play off spot come may would mean a very good season and
hopfuly you can sneak up there

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> We are at the Championship!!!!
>
> 5th place would aready by nice for now.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > Midlands team, good man! :-) I wanna see them go up this season
> >
> > Do you think they will make it out of the conferance ;-)
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is full
> > > of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> > > Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> > > stadium :)
> > >
> > > No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
> > >
> > > I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager and
> > > few Belgian players ;)
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more after
> > > this
> > > > season :))
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
and
> > > i am
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
wiser......yeah
> > > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:36:24 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I ment only USSR :-P
but also having those old countrys that are no longer called such

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I don't think West/east germany, or Czechslovakia had CCCP on their
> shirts... :)))
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> wrote:
> > I remember USSR but didnt they used to wear CCCP on thers shirts?
> > and also West/east germany, czechslovakia not czech rep.
> > those were the days!
> >
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> > > Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > :))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > wow
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Happy birthday!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
> and i
> > > > > am the
> > > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
wiser......yeah
> > > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:13:59 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Management games?

well whatever makes u happy. what made cm/fm so popular was its actual
management and not meaningless features like how a stadium looks and a
3d engine. Fm/Cm are the most realistic management games. u can start
from the small leagues in it too.

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> The 3D engine is the best. You see players and not balls posing as
> players. You see the stadiums with all their distinctive features. you
> get to manage all aspects of the club and you are not restricted to a
> budget, but that also calls for more responsable management. And you
> can create your own team and start from the regional amateur leagues
> and fight your way to the Premiership....if you can :)))
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > why not?
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > Football manager sucks big time.
> > > championship manager was great but its indeed not as good as TCM.
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games.
u have
> > > > sinned u deluded one :))
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there
must
> > > be
> > > > > other acceptable ones out there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its
first
> > > 2
> > > > > > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards
> > > (Was
> > > > > > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really
> > > management
> > > > > > either. All playing from what i remember
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > > > > > - Kickoff
> > > > > > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > > > > > - Championship Manager
> > > > > > > - Football Manager
> > > > > > > - Total Club Manager
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
> > > > football
> > > > > > > games who were less good.
> > > > > > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
> > > > games on
> > > > > > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everybody does!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I am curious
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyone playing football management games like
> > > Championship
> > > > > > > Manager,
> > > > > > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager
and so
> > > on?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > :))

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:16:25 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN

yep catches win matches and pietersen, strauss and the wicket keeper
have been big culprits for dropped catches. we wouldnt have won the
first one, but we would have won the next 3 easily.

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> yep, needed a oaultry 129 to win and lose 7 wickets! should have won
> convincingly like in the 2nd test but nearly fucked that up! and if it
> wasnt but for 1 wicket in the 3rd we would already have the ashes!
> Mind you if are wicket keeper new how to keep wicket and catch the
> ball, we probably could have won all 4
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > yeah a good win. typical england made a meal of getting 129, but we
> > did it in the end. now only need a draw at the oval and we got the
> > series. u can shove that up ur arse u convicts!
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > England 477 (A Flintoff 102, G O Jones 85, M E Trescothick 65, M P
> > > Vaughan 58, S K Warne 4-102) & 129-7 (S K Warne 4-31) v
Australia 218
> > > (S P Jones 5-44) & 387 (J L Langer 61, S M Katich 59, M J Clarke 56)
> > > England beat Australia by 3 wkts
> > >
> > > If the ending to the previous Tests at Edgbaston and Old
Trafford were
> > > tense almost beyond belief, there was something of the surreal about
> > > England's three wicket victory here at Trent Bridge.
> > >
> > > Set just 129 to win the fourth Test, England stuttered and
stumbled to
> > > their target after Shane Warne and Brett Lee had given Australia
hope
> > > when all seemed lost.
> > >
> > > But ultimately it was Matthew Hoggard and Ashley Giles the
batsmen who
> > > carried England to victory, meaning they take a 2-1 lead to the
final
> > > Test at The Oval in 11 days' time needing only a draw to win the
Ashes
> > > that were lost here in 1989.
> > >
> > > If you rolled the Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford into one you
> > > still wouldn't get the drama and tension created at the end of this
> > > fourth day in Nottingham.
> > >
> > > The England bowlers strained every sinew to chip away at the
> > > Australian batting line-up and they were finally dismissed by
tea-time
> > > for 387 having resumed on 222-4.
> > >
> > > At the end Hoggard cracked six off one over of Lee's before Giles
> > > nudged it for two off Warne to give England the win.
> > >
> > > No-one thought it would be easy but when Warne broke through
with his
> > > first delivery it was clear England and their fans were set for an
> > > uncomfortable afternoon.
> > >
> > > Openers Marcus Trescothick and Andrew Strauss put on 32 with few
> > > alarms but the introduction of Warne after just five overs almost
> > > changed the game and the very destination of the Ashes.
> > >
> > > Trescothick hit four fours in a 22-ball 27, but fell to Warne's
first
> > > ball, reaching forward and bat-padding the ball to Ricky
Ponting, who
> > > held on to a superb low catch.
> > >
> > > England added just another four runs before skipper Michael Vaughan
> > > became Warne's next victim, a leading edge pouched by Matthew Hayden
> > > at first slip.
> > >
> > > A 21-run stand between Ian Bell and Strauss ended when the Middlesex
> > > left-hander glanced a Warne delivery to Michael Clarke at leg slip,
> > > the third umpire agreeing that the Australian did indeed scoop the
> > > ball up before it hit the ground.
> > >
> > > Australia had the sniff of a remarkable victory moments later
without
> > > another run added, as Bell was tempted into a hook shot off Lee's
> > > bouncer and Michael Kasprowicz held on at fine leg to reduce the
hosts
> > > to 57-4.
> > >
> > > Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Flintoff put on 46 together to get
England
> > > to within touching distance of victory, but there was more drama to
> > come.
> > >
> > > Lee was reintroduced with just 26 needed for victory he immediately
> > > tempted Pietersen into a loose drive, Adam Gilchrist holding a fine
> > > tumbling catch.
> > >
> > > Flintoff and Geraint Jones put on a further eight together
before Lee
> > > produced a superb inswinging delivery that clipped the top of
> > > Flintoff's off stump.
> > >
> > > With 13 still to get Jones was tempted down the pitch by Warne and
> > > miscued an attempt to hit over the top, Kasprowicz calmly taking the
> > > catch at deep cover.
> > >
> > > That brought Matthew Hoggard to the wicket and the Yorkshire seamer
> > > was the coolest man in Nottingham. He carved out an unbeaten - and
> > > chanceless eight - and left it up to Giles to win the match with
an on
> > > drive off Warne.
> > >
> > > Hoggard had earlier got the important breakthrough just before lunch
> > > and again in his second over after the interval as Australia
began to
> > > lose wickets as they endeavoured to set England a testing target.
> > >
> > > The Yorkshire seamer induced an edge from Michael Clarke (56) 10
> > > minutes before lunch to boost England's morale after a difficult
> > > morning session as Australia went in at 270-5.
> > >
> > > And with just seven runs added to the score, dangerman Adam
Gilchrist
> > > played round a straight ball and was trapped in front by a ball that
> > > pitched on leg stump and went straight on.
> > >
> > > Clarke had edged Giles past Trescothick on the way to a patient
> > > half-century with Simon Katich remaining steadfast at the other end.
> > >
> > > But Clarke, who had not been tempted to attack England's defensive
> > > strategy throughout the morning, finally followed an outswinger
having
> > > reached 56 and Jones gleefully snapped up the chance.
> > >
> > > England had been frustrated in the absence of much movement with the
> > > old ball, particularly with Simon Jones off the field with an ankle
> > > injury.
> > >
> > > However, the new ball gave England renewed hope and Katich could
have
> > > been run out by Flintoff as he set off for a suicidal run, but the
> > > bowler missed the stumps with Katich out of his ground.
> > >
> > > Gilchrist had signalled his intent with two boundaries in nine
minutes
> > > before lunch, but England had his measure once again.
> > >
> > > Katich (59) then passed his half-century off 160 balls as he
continued
> > > to take the fight to the hosts but was out soon after in one of the
> > > more unsatisfactory moments of the match - umpire Aleem Dar
giving him
> > > out lbw despite the ball from Steve Harmison pitching outside leg
> > > stump and hitting him above the roll.
> > >
> > > It was an important wicket for the toiling bowlers with the Aussies
> > > starting to build their lead.
> > >
> > > Warne came to the crease on a pair but he played with his usual
> > > abandon, hitting five fours and two sixes in his innings of 45
from 42
> > > balls before he went for one hit too many off Ashley Giles, Jones
> > > doing the stumping.
> > >
> > > Kasprowicz frustrated England in a partnership of 31 with Lee before
> > > he nicked Harmison to Jones, and Shaun Tait left Lee, who had been
> > > dropped by the gloveman on nought, stranded on 26 not out when
he left
> > > his stumps exposed for Harmison to clean him up.
> > >
> > > So England were set 129 for victory, one they surely deserved.
And now
> > > to the Brit Oval a week on Thursday with just a draw needed to
regain
> > > the Ashes.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > OK OK
> > >
> > > cricket? whats that but we aint come close to winning the ashes
since
> > > we last won them and before this series hadnt beaten the ausys in a
> > > test for over 15 years or somthing like that.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:14:52 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Dashing Danes undo England

yeah but thats championship level. bobby zamora was awesome there. hes
not proved anything at a high level

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> He was fine untill he went to liverpool, at coventry he was amazing
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > ive not seen him fit long enough to prove that. hes injured too often!
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > IMO Kirkland is the best we have when fit.
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > robert green (norwich) and chris kirkland (liverpool - on loan
> to west
> > > > brom)
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I mostly saw James when he was at Liverpool and he never
> > impressed me.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, if Robinson is England's nr1
> > > > > Who should be nr 2 and 3?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > i wish david james would never play for england again. sven is
> > just
> > > > > a
> > > > > > twat really. he just loses some sense sometimes. he starts
> > defoe so
> > > > > he
> > > > > > can form a partnership with rooney before the wales
> > game......so he
> > > > > > takes him off at half time so owen can get some match fitness?
> > makes
> > > > > > perfect sense. i dont care really as i dont want him getting
> > > > > injured.
> > > > > > just sven makes such shitty tactical decisions! when things go
> > his
> > > > > way
> > > > > > hes fine. but if the opposition attack our weaknesses then hes
> > > > > > clueless. he doesnt know what to do to counteract it. bring
> me in
> > > > > charge!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Denmark 4-1 England
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > England suffered their heaviest defeat since losing 4-1
> against
> > > > > Wales
> > > > > > > in 1980, as Denmark swept Sven-Göran Eriksson's team aside
> > by the
> > > > > > > same scoreline in Copenhagen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Goal glut
> > > > > > > Three goals in seven second-half minutes did the damage,
> > after an
> > > > > > > even opening period. Denmark took the lead on the hour when
> > David
> > > > > > > James, a second-half substitute for No1 Paul Robinson,
> > rushed out
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > his goal only to be rounded by Jon Dahl Tomasson who squared
> > the
> > > > > ball
> > > > > > > for Dennis Rommedahl to tap in.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Danish delight
> > > > > > > Rommedahl's strike was the catalyst for Denmark to turn on
> the
> > > > > style
> > > > > > > and they added a second three minutes later as Claus Jensen
> > sent
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > ball across the face of goal for Tomasson to register. A
> > stunned
> > > > > > > England conceded a third on 67 minutes, defender Michael
> > > > > Gravgaard
> > > > > > > demonstrating his aerial prowess to head in from a corner.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rooney consolation
> > > > > > > Morten Olsen's side controlled the majority of the second
> half,
> > > > > > > though the visitors did reduce the deficit with their first
> > > > > > > opportunity of this spell when Wayne Rooney latched on to
> David
> > > > > > > Beckham's through-ball to score with three minutes
remaining.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Turkish test
> > > > > > > However, Denmark deservedly had the last word. Søren Larsen
> > slid
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ball past James in added time for the home team's fourth
> > goal to
> > > > > > > leave them full of confidence ahead of their crucial
> qualifier
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > Turkey on 3 September.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ************************************
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are red, we are white, we are anish dynamite!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go James :p

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