Sunday, August 28, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1583

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Management games?
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
2. PSV's Lee leaves for London
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
3. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
4. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
5. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
6. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
7. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Dashing Danes undo England
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
9. Re: Pearce snaps up Qatari ace
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
10. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
11. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
12. Re: Management games?
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
13. HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
14. James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
15. Re: Management games?
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
16. Re: PSV's Lee leaves for London
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
17. Re: Dashing Danes undo England
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
18. Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
19. Re: James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
20. Re: Management games?
From: marta_grimsdottir
21. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: marta_grimsdottir
22. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: marta_grimsdottir
23. Match Preview - Norwich City
From: marta_grimsdottir
24. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: marta_grimsdottir
25. Re: Management games?
From: marta_grimsdottir

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:28:00 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Management games?

Football manager sucks big time.
championship manager was great but its indeed not as good as TCM.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games. u have
> sinned u deluded one :))
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must
be
> > other acceptable ones out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first
2
> > > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards
(Was
> > > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really
management
> > > either. All playing from what i remember
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > > - Kickoff
> > > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > > - Championship Manager
> > > > - Football Manager
> > > > - Total Club Manager
> > > >
> > > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
> football
> > > > games who were less good.
> > > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
> games on
> > > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Everybody does!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > I am curious
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone playing football management games like
Championship
> > > > Manager,
> > > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so
on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :))

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:09:22 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: PSV's Lee leaves for London

According to the Korean media, Lee Young-pyo has agreed a four year
deal with Tottenham Hotspur and will sign for the Premier League club
on Tuesday.

The terms of the deal have yet to be released but the 28 year-old's
agent did say that the versatile international will be among the top
five earners at White Hart Lane.

Lee could make his debut against Liverpool on September 10.

The former Anyang Cheetahs star joined PSV Eindhoven in January 2003
and now will become the second South Korean to play in the Premier
League, facing Park Ji-sung in Manchester on October 22.

*****************************

Lee a top 5 earners at Spurs??
He fooled you guys :p

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:25:56 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

22! Older and wiser.......

Nope dont sound like you! If and when that does happen I'll start to worry

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i am the
> grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah bollocks
> to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
>
> Nick

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:26:53 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

So that makes you erm...... 92 now then ;)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i am the
> > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah bollocks
> > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> >
> > Nick

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:28:35 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I'll be recieving my pention by then!

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Happy birthday!
>
> I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i
am the
> > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
bollocks
> > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > >
> > > Nick

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:29:54 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

Midlands team, good man! :-) I wanna see them go up this season

Do you think they will make it out of the conferance ;-)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is full
> of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> stadium :)
>
> No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
>
> I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager and
> few Belgian players ;)
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more after
> this
> > season :))
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and
> i am
> > > the
> > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > bollocks
> > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:30:49 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

So that makes 2 in total!

get some mates round and the ground will be full ;-)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Stoke just got another fan then. :)))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is full
> > of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> > Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> > stadium :)
> >
> > No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
> >
> > I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager and
> > few Belgian players ;)
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more after
> > this
> > > season :))
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and
> > i am
> > > > the
> > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > > bollocks
> > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:31:39 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dashing Danes undo England

IMO Kirkland is the best we have when fit.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> robert green (norwich) and chris kirkland (liverpool - on loan to west
> brom)
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > I mostly saw James when he was at Liverpool and he never impressed me.
> >
> > So, if Robinson is England's nr1
> > Who should be nr 2 and 3?
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > i wish david james would never play for england again. sven is just
> > a
> > > twat really. he just loses some sense sometimes. he starts defoe so
> > he
> > > can form a partnership with rooney before the wales game......so he
> > > takes him off at half time so owen can get some match fitness? makes
> > > perfect sense. i dont care really as i dont want him getting
> > injured.
> > > just sven makes such shitty tactical decisions! when things go his
> > way
> > > hes fine. but if the opposition attack our weaknesses then hes
> > > clueless. he doesnt know what to do to counteract it. bring me in
> > charge!
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > Denmark 4-1 England
> > > >
> > > > England suffered their heaviest defeat since losing 4-1 against
> > Wales
> > > > in 1980, as Denmark swept Sven-Göran Eriksson's team aside by the
> > > > same scoreline in Copenhagen.
> > > >
> > > > Goal glut
> > > > Three goals in seven second-half minutes did the damage, after an
> > > > even opening period. Denmark took the lead on the hour when David
> > > > James, a second-half substitute for No1 Paul Robinson, rushed out
> > of
> > > > his goal only to be rounded by Jon Dahl Tomasson who squared the
> > ball
> > > > for Dennis Rommedahl to tap in.
> > > >
> > > > Danish delight
> > > > Rommedahl's strike was the catalyst for Denmark to turn on the
> > style
> > > > and they added a second three minutes later as Claus Jensen sent
> > a
> > > > ball across the face of goal for Tomasson to register. A stunned
> > > > England conceded a third on 67 minutes, defender Michael
> > Gravgaard
> > > > demonstrating his aerial prowess to head in from a corner.
> > > >
> > > > Rooney consolation
> > > > Morten Olsen's side controlled the majority of the second half,
> > > > though the visitors did reduce the deficit with their first
> > > > opportunity of this spell when Wayne Rooney latched on to David
> > > > Beckham's through-ball to score with three minutes remaining.
> > > >
> > > > Turkish test
> > > > However, Denmark deservedly had the last word. Søren Larsen slid
> > the
> > > > ball past James in added time for the home team's fourth goal to
> > > > leave them full of confidence ahead of their crucial qualifier
> > with
> > > > Turkey on 3 September.
> > > >
> > > > ************************************
> > > >
> > > > We are red, we are white, we are anish dynamite!!
> > > >
> > > > Go James :p

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:32:27 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pearce snaps up Qatari ace

Dont he play cricket ;-)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Manchester City have offered a six month contract to Yasser Hussain
> after the Qatari international impressed boss Stuart Pearce during a
> recent trial.
>
> The 23 year-old performed well in pre-season friendlies against
> Tranmere Rovers and Macclesfield.
>
> Former City skipper Ali Benarbia recommended the player, who can play
> on either flank, to the Premier League club.
>
> The ex-England defender insists that City have nothing to lose and
> dismissed suggestions that Hussain is too small for the English game.
>
> "You look at Shaun Wright-Phillips and you might
> think 'lightweight'," the boss told city's official website.
>
> "One thing I noticed about Yasser is that he is not afraid to go in
> for a tackle or jump for a header. They're not the traits of a
> lightweight.
>
> "With the length of contract, we are offering it's no gamble for this
> football club.
>
> "He's been as keen as mustard to come over here and show us what he
> can do - and he's done enough to suggest it will be well worth having
> a look at him."
>
> Hussain, currently with Qatar's Al-Sadd will join the English club
> after he gets international clearance and his wife gives birth to
> their baby.
>
> ********************************
>
> Since when are Qatari players moving abroad?
> I thought it was always the opposite :p

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:05 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

Congradulations for September, well done Mangy :-)
has he got a name yet?

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> Actually, I feel younger every day :)) My son will be born in
> September! :))
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > Lol cool. Mangy is no doubt feeling very old.......or just needs to
> > get someone younger to make him feel younger :))
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > Happy birthday!
> > >
> > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i
> > am the
> > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > bollocks
> > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:41:57 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I remember USSR but didnt they used to wear CCCP on thers shirts?
and also West/east germany, czechslovakia not czech rep.
those were the days!

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > :))
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > Happy birthday!
> > > >
> > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i
> > > am the
> > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > bollocks
> > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:45:32 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Management games?

WT! Premier manager aswell! 1,2,3 although 4 was not the best and very
slow although they did use a fifa style 3d pitch so you could find out
how your players where interating a feature only just put into recent
versions of champ man.
and Ultimate soccer manager! that was quality! still have a copy today
;-) never play it but it was the bomb! could rig games aswell! mind
you it was the era of the george graham famous bung

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> - Kickoff
> - Sensible World of Soccer
> - Championship Manager
> - Football Manager
> - Total Club Manager
>
> With of course several versions of all those and a few other football
> games who were less good.
> Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA games on
> PS. TCM is what I currently use.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Everybody does!
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > I am curious
> > >
> > > Anyone playing football management games like Championship
> Manager,
> > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so on?
> > >
> > > :))

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:49:03 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN

England 477 (A Flintoff 102, G O Jones 85, M E Trescothick 65, M P
Vaughan 58, S K Warne 4-102) & 129-7 (S K Warne 4-31) v Australia 218
(S P Jones 5-44) & 387 (J L Langer 61, S M Katich 59, M J Clarke 56)
England beat Australia by 3 wkts

If the ending to the previous Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford were
tense almost beyond belief, there was something of the surreal about
England's three wicket victory here at Trent Bridge.

Set just 129 to win the fourth Test, England stuttered and stumbled to
their target after Shane Warne and Brett Lee had given Australia hope
when all seemed lost.

But ultimately it was Matthew Hoggard and Ashley Giles the batsmen who
carried England to victory, meaning they take a 2-1 lead to the final
Test at The Oval in 11 days' time needing only a draw to win the Ashes
that were lost here in 1989.

If you rolled the Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford into one you
still wouldn't get the drama and tension created at the end of this
fourth day in Nottingham.

The England bowlers strained every sinew to chip away at the
Australian batting line-up and they were finally dismissed by tea-time
for 387 having resumed on 222-4.

At the end Hoggard cracked six off one over of Lee's before Giles
nudged it for two off Warne to give England the win.

No-one thought it would be easy but when Warne broke through with his
first delivery it was clear England and their fans were set for an
uncomfortable afternoon.

Openers Marcus Trescothick and Andrew Strauss put on 32 with few
alarms but the introduction of Warne after just five overs almost
changed the game and the very destination of the Ashes.

Trescothick hit four fours in a 22-ball 27, but fell to Warne's first
ball, reaching forward and bat-padding the ball to Ricky Ponting, who
held on to a superb low catch.

England added just another four runs before skipper Michael Vaughan
became Warne's next victim, a leading edge pouched by Matthew Hayden
at first slip.

A 21-run stand between Ian Bell and Strauss ended when the Middlesex
left-hander glanced a Warne delivery to Michael Clarke at leg slip,
the third umpire agreeing that the Australian did indeed scoop the
ball up before it hit the ground.

Australia had the sniff of a remarkable victory moments later without
another run added, as Bell was tempted into a hook shot off Lee's
bouncer and Michael Kasprowicz held on at fine leg to reduce the hosts
to 57-4.

Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Flintoff put on 46 together to get England
to within touching distance of victory, but there was more drama to come.

Lee was reintroduced with just 26 needed for victory he immediately
tempted Pietersen into a loose drive, Adam Gilchrist holding a fine
tumbling catch.

Flintoff and Geraint Jones put on a further eight together before Lee
produced a superb inswinging delivery that clipped the top of
Flintoff's off stump.

With 13 still to get Jones was tempted down the pitch by Warne and
miscued an attempt to hit over the top, Kasprowicz calmly taking the
catch at deep cover.

That brought Matthew Hoggard to the wicket and the Yorkshire seamer
was the coolest man in Nottingham. He carved out an unbeaten - and
chanceless eight - and left it up to Giles to win the match with an on
drive off Warne.

Hoggard had earlier got the important breakthrough just before lunch
and again in his second over after the interval as Australia began to
lose wickets as they endeavoured to set England a testing target.

The Yorkshire seamer induced an edge from Michael Clarke (56) 10
minutes before lunch to boost England's morale after a difficult
morning session as Australia went in at 270-5.

And with just seven runs added to the score, dangerman Adam Gilchrist
played round a straight ball and was trapped in front by a ball that
pitched on leg stump and went straight on.

Clarke had edged Giles past Trescothick on the way to a patient
half-century with Simon Katich remaining steadfast at the other end.

But Clarke, who had not been tempted to attack England's defensive
strategy throughout the morning, finally followed an outswinger having
reached 56 and Jones gleefully snapped up the chance.

England had been frustrated in the absence of much movement with the
old ball, particularly with Simon Jones off the field with an ankle
injury.

However, the new ball gave England renewed hope and Katich could have
been run out by Flintoff as he set off for a suicidal run, but the
bowler missed the stumps with Katich out of his ground.

Gilchrist had signalled his intent with two boundaries in nine minutes
before lunch, but England had his measure once again.

Katich (59) then passed his half-century off 160 balls as he continued
to take the fight to the hosts but was out soon after in one of the
more unsatisfactory moments of the match - umpire Aleem Dar giving him
out lbw despite the ball from Steve Harmison pitching outside leg
stump and hitting him above the roll.

It was an important wicket for the toiling bowlers with the Aussies
starting to build their lead.

Warne came to the crease on a pair but he played with his usual
abandon, hitting five fours and two sixes in his innings of 45 from 42
balls before he went for one hit too many off Ashley Giles, Jones
doing the stumping.

Kasprowicz frustrated England in a partnership of 31 with Lee before
he nicked Harmison to Jones, and Shaun Tait left Lee, who had been
dropped by the gloveman on nought, stranded on 26 not out when he left
his stumps exposed for Harmison to clean him up.

So England were set 129 for victory, one they surely deserved. And now
to the Brit Oval a week on Thursday with just a draw needed to regain
the Ashes.

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OK OK

cricket? whats that but we aint come close to winning the ashes since
we last won them and before this series hadnt beaten the ausys in a
test for over 15 years or somthing like that.

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:50:40 -0000
From: "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@yahoo.com>
Subject: James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

David James has paid the price for his poor display in England's 4-1
defeat in Denmark as he was axed by Sven-Goran Eriksson for England's
forthcoming World Cup qualifiers against Wales and Northern Ireland.

The Manchester City custodian let in all four goals in England's
defeat in Copenhagen and has now been replaced by West Brom's Chris
Kirkland.

Eriksson insists it is not the end of the line for James, but admitted
his display in the Three Lions' recent defeat had prompted him to look
elsewhere.

"I have spoken to David James today and explained to him that, on this
occasion, I think it's best not to select him," stated the England chief.

"He has always been extremely professional for me and I have assured
him that the door is not closed, and that I will be monitoring his
form at Manchester City very closely.

"Chris Kirkland is a brilliant prospect who has suffered badly with
injuries, but he is now started playing regularly again, so I feel the
time is right to have a good look at him."

Also dropped is Chelsea's Glen Johnson, but there is a surprise first
call-up for Liverpool starlet Stephen Warnock.

Charlton's Luke Young replaces Johnson in the squad and could deputize
for the injured Gary Neville, although brother Phil and Liverpool's
Jamie Carragher are other options Eriksson will consider at right-back.

"Right-back is an issue," the Swede continued. "I know Jamie Carragher
and Phil Neville don't play for their clubs but they can do the job.
Luke Young is also doing very well at the moment."

Charlton's Darren Bent keeps his place in the 22-man squad following
his explosive start to the Premiership campaign while Crystal Palace's
Andy Johnson is also brought back into the international fold after
missing out against Denmark through injury.

Michael Owen is selected despite being suspended for the Wales game,
but there is no place for Alan Smith who opted to sit out the Denmark
game in favour of improving his fitness with Manchester United's reserves.

Despite the snub, Eriksson claims Smith is still under consideration,
adding: "Alan Smith is always in my thoughts.

"I know (Sir Alex) Ferguson is trying to make him a holding midfielder
and that won't happen overnight.

"I hope for him and England he will be successful. You have to
consider him a centre-forward but also a midfielder."

Liverpool's Steven Gerrard and Chelsea captain John Terry are both
included in the squad despite carrying injuries.

Full squad: Robinson (Tottenham), Green (Norwich), Kirkland
(Liverpool); Young (Charlton), Warnock (Liverpool), P Neville
(Everton), A Cole (Arsenal), Carragher (Liverpool), Ferdinand (Man
Utd), Terry (Chelsea), Upson (Birmingham), Beckham (Real Madrid),
Gerrard (Liverpool), Lampard (Chelsea), J Cole (Chelsea), Hargreaves
(Bayern Munich), Wright-Phillips (Chelsea), Jenas (Newcastle), Carrick
(Tottenham), Richardson (Man Utd); Owen* (Real Madrid), Rooney (Man
Utd), Defoe (Tottenham), A Johnson (Crystal Palace), Bent (Charlton)

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aint that a shame :-(
im so sad to see him go!

WUHAHAHAHAHA!!!! the tosser should not have played since the austria
fuck up.

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:01:00 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Management games?

why not?

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Football manager sucks big time.
> championship manager was great but its indeed not as good as TCM.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games. u have
> > sinned u deluded one :))
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must
> be
> > > other acceptable ones out there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first
> 2
> > > > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards
> (Was
> > > > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really
> management
> > > > either. All playing from what i remember
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > > > - Kickoff
> > > > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > > > - Championship Manager
> > > > > - Football Manager
> > > > > - Total Club Manager
> > > > >
> > > > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
> > football
> > > > > games who were less good.
> > > > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
> > games on
> > > > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everybody does!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > I am curious
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone playing football management games like
> Championship
> > > > > Manager,
> > > > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so
> on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > :))

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:01:45 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PSV's Lee leaves for London

whos to say we didnt fool him into what our top 5 earners earn :P

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> According to the Korean media, Lee Young-pyo has agreed a four year
> deal with Tottenham Hotspur and will sign for the Premier League club
> on Tuesday.
>
> The terms of the deal have yet to be released but the 28 year-old's
> agent did say that the versatile international will be among the top
> five earners at White Hart Lane.
>
> Lee could make his debut against Liverpool on September 10.
>
> The former Anyang Cheetahs star joined PSV Eindhoven in January 2003
> and now will become the second South Korean to play in the Premier
> League, facing Park Ji-sung in Manchester on October 22.
>
> *****************************
>
> Lee a top 5 earners at Spurs??
> He fooled you guys :p

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:03:20 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Dashing Danes undo England

ive not seen him fit long enough to prove that. hes injured too often!

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> IMO Kirkland is the best we have when fit.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > robert green (norwich) and chris kirkland (liverpool - on loan to west
> > brom)
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > I mostly saw James when he was at Liverpool and he never
impressed me.
> > >
> > > So, if Robinson is England's nr1
> > > Who should be nr 2 and 3?
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > i wish david james would never play for england again. sven is
just
> > > a
> > > > twat really. he just loses some sense sometimes. he starts
defoe so
> > > he
> > > > can form a partnership with rooney before the wales
game......so he
> > > > takes him off at half time so owen can get some match fitness?
makes
> > > > perfect sense. i dont care really as i dont want him getting
> > > injured.
> > > > just sven makes such shitty tactical decisions! when things go
his
> > > way
> > > > hes fine. but if the opposition attack our weaknesses then hes
> > > > clueless. he doesnt know what to do to counteract it. bring me in
> > > charge!
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Denmark 4-1 England
> > > > >
> > > > > England suffered their heaviest defeat since losing 4-1 against
> > > Wales
> > > > > in 1980, as Denmark swept Sven-Göran Eriksson's team aside
by the
> > > > > same scoreline in Copenhagen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Goal glut
> > > > > Three goals in seven second-half minutes did the damage,
after an
> > > > > even opening period. Denmark took the lead on the hour when
David
> > > > > James, a second-half substitute for No1 Paul Robinson,
rushed out
> > > of
> > > > > his goal only to be rounded by Jon Dahl Tomasson who squared
the
> > > ball
> > > > > for Dennis Rommedahl to tap in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Danish delight
> > > > > Rommedahl's strike was the catalyst for Denmark to turn on the
> > > style
> > > > > and they added a second three minutes later as Claus Jensen
sent
> > > a
> > > > > ball across the face of goal for Tomasson to register. A
stunned
> > > > > England conceded a third on 67 minutes, defender Michael
> > > Gravgaard
> > > > > demonstrating his aerial prowess to head in from a corner.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rooney consolation
> > > > > Morten Olsen's side controlled the majority of the second half,
> > > > > though the visitors did reduce the deficit with their first
> > > > > opportunity of this spell when Wayne Rooney latched on to David
> > > > > Beckham's through-ball to score with three minutes remaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turkish test
> > > > > However, Denmark deservedly had the last word. Søren Larsen
slid
> > > the
> > > > > ball past James in added time for the home team's fourth
goal to
> > > > > leave them full of confidence ahead of their crucial qualifier
> > > with
> > > > > Turkey on 3 September.
> > > > >
> > > > > ************************************
> > > > >
> > > > > We are red, we are white, we are anish dynamite!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Go James :p

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:05:52 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HOGGARD THE HERO AS ENGLAND WIN

yeah a good win. typical england made a meal of getting 129, but we
did it in the end. now only need a draw at the oval and we got the
series. u can shove that up ur arse u convicts!

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> England 477 (A Flintoff 102, G O Jones 85, M E Trescothick 65, M P
> Vaughan 58, S K Warne 4-102) & 129-7 (S K Warne 4-31) v Australia 218
> (S P Jones 5-44) & 387 (J L Langer 61, S M Katich 59, M J Clarke 56)
> England beat Australia by 3 wkts
>
> If the ending to the previous Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford were
> tense almost beyond belief, there was something of the surreal about
> England's three wicket victory here at Trent Bridge.
>
> Set just 129 to win the fourth Test, England stuttered and stumbled to
> their target after Shane Warne and Brett Lee had given Australia hope
> when all seemed lost.
>
> But ultimately it was Matthew Hoggard and Ashley Giles the batsmen who
> carried England to victory, meaning they take a 2-1 lead to the final
> Test at The Oval in 11 days' time needing only a draw to win the Ashes
> that were lost here in 1989.
>
> If you rolled the Tests at Edgbaston and Old Trafford into one you
> still wouldn't get the drama and tension created at the end of this
> fourth day in Nottingham.
>
> The England bowlers strained every sinew to chip away at the
> Australian batting line-up and they were finally dismissed by tea-time
> for 387 having resumed on 222-4.
>
> At the end Hoggard cracked six off one over of Lee's before Giles
> nudged it for two off Warne to give England the win.
>
> No-one thought it would be easy but when Warne broke through with his
> first delivery it was clear England and their fans were set for an
> uncomfortable afternoon.
>
> Openers Marcus Trescothick and Andrew Strauss put on 32 with few
> alarms but the introduction of Warne after just five overs almost
> changed the game and the very destination of the Ashes.
>
> Trescothick hit four fours in a 22-ball 27, but fell to Warne's first
> ball, reaching forward and bat-padding the ball to Ricky Ponting, who
> held on to a superb low catch.
>
> England added just another four runs before skipper Michael Vaughan
> became Warne's next victim, a leading edge pouched by Matthew Hayden
> at first slip.
>
> A 21-run stand between Ian Bell and Strauss ended when the Middlesex
> left-hander glanced a Warne delivery to Michael Clarke at leg slip,
> the third umpire agreeing that the Australian did indeed scoop the
> ball up before it hit the ground.
>
> Australia had the sniff of a remarkable victory moments later without
> another run added, as Bell was tempted into a hook shot off Lee's
> bouncer and Michael Kasprowicz held on at fine leg to reduce the hosts
> to 57-4.
>
> Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Flintoff put on 46 together to get England
> to within touching distance of victory, but there was more drama to
come.
>
> Lee was reintroduced with just 26 needed for victory he immediately
> tempted Pietersen into a loose drive, Adam Gilchrist holding a fine
> tumbling catch.
>
> Flintoff and Geraint Jones put on a further eight together before Lee
> produced a superb inswinging delivery that clipped the top of
> Flintoff's off stump.
>
> With 13 still to get Jones was tempted down the pitch by Warne and
> miscued an attempt to hit over the top, Kasprowicz calmly taking the
> catch at deep cover.
>
> That brought Matthew Hoggard to the wicket and the Yorkshire seamer
> was the coolest man in Nottingham. He carved out an unbeaten - and
> chanceless eight - and left it up to Giles to win the match with an on
> drive off Warne.
>
> Hoggard had earlier got the important breakthrough just before lunch
> and again in his second over after the interval as Australia began to
> lose wickets as they endeavoured to set England a testing target.
>
> The Yorkshire seamer induced an edge from Michael Clarke (56) 10
> minutes before lunch to boost England's morale after a difficult
> morning session as Australia went in at 270-5.
>
> And with just seven runs added to the score, dangerman Adam Gilchrist
> played round a straight ball and was trapped in front by a ball that
> pitched on leg stump and went straight on.
>
> Clarke had edged Giles past Trescothick on the way to a patient
> half-century with Simon Katich remaining steadfast at the other end.
>
> But Clarke, who had not been tempted to attack England's defensive
> strategy throughout the morning, finally followed an outswinger having
> reached 56 and Jones gleefully snapped up the chance.
>
> England had been frustrated in the absence of much movement with the
> old ball, particularly with Simon Jones off the field with an ankle
> injury.
>
> However, the new ball gave England renewed hope and Katich could have
> been run out by Flintoff as he set off for a suicidal run, but the
> bowler missed the stumps with Katich out of his ground.
>
> Gilchrist had signalled his intent with two boundaries in nine minutes
> before lunch, but England had his measure once again.
>
> Katich (59) then passed his half-century off 160 balls as he continued
> to take the fight to the hosts but was out soon after in one of the
> more unsatisfactory moments of the match - umpire Aleem Dar giving him
> out lbw despite the ball from Steve Harmison pitching outside leg
> stump and hitting him above the roll.
>
> It was an important wicket for the toiling bowlers with the Aussies
> starting to build their lead.
>
> Warne came to the crease on a pair but he played with his usual
> abandon, hitting five fours and two sixes in his innings of 45 from 42
> balls before he went for one hit too many off Ashley Giles, Jones
> doing the stumping.
>
> Kasprowicz frustrated England in a partnership of 31 with Lee before
> he nicked Harmison to Jones, and Shaun Tait left Lee, who had been
> dropped by the gloveman on nought, stranded on 26 not out when he left
> his stumps exposed for Harmison to clean him up.
>
> So England were set 129 for victory, one they surely deserved. And now
> to the Brit Oval a week on Thursday with just a draw needed to regain
> the Ashes.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> OK OK
>
> cricket? whats that but we aint come close to winning the ashes since
> we last won them and before this series hadnt beaten the ausys in a
> test for over 15 years or somthing like that.

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:06:31 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: James axed by England - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

good riddance james and johnson. but hmm warnock called up? why?

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> David James has paid the price for his poor display in England's 4-1
> defeat in Denmark as he was axed by Sven-Goran Eriksson for England's
> forthcoming World Cup qualifiers against Wales and Northern Ireland.
>
> The Manchester City custodian let in all four goals in England's
> defeat in Copenhagen and has now been replaced by West Brom's Chris
> Kirkland.
>
> Eriksson insists it is not the end of the line for James, but admitted
> his display in the Three Lions' recent defeat had prompted him to look
> elsewhere.
>
> "I have spoken to David James today and explained to him that, on this
> occasion, I think it's best not to select him," stated the England
chief.
>
> "He has always been extremely professional for me and I have assured
> him that the door is not closed, and that I will be monitoring his
> form at Manchester City very closely.
>
> "Chris Kirkland is a brilliant prospect who has suffered badly with
> injuries, but he is now started playing regularly again, so I feel the
> time is right to have a good look at him."
>
> Also dropped is Chelsea's Glen Johnson, but there is a surprise first
> call-up for Liverpool starlet Stephen Warnock.
>
> Charlton's Luke Young replaces Johnson in the squad and could deputize
> for the injured Gary Neville, although brother Phil and Liverpool's
> Jamie Carragher are other options Eriksson will consider at right-back.
>
> "Right-back is an issue," the Swede continued. "I know Jamie Carragher
> and Phil Neville don't play for their clubs but they can do the job.
> Luke Young is also doing very well at the moment."
>
> Charlton's Darren Bent keeps his place in the 22-man squad following
> his explosive start to the Premiership campaign while Crystal Palace's
> Andy Johnson is also brought back into the international fold after
> missing out against Denmark through injury.
>
> Michael Owen is selected despite being suspended for the Wales game,
> but there is no place for Alan Smith who opted to sit out the Denmark
> game in favour of improving his fitness with Manchester United's
reserves.
>
> Despite the snub, Eriksson claims Smith is still under consideration,
> adding: "Alan Smith is always in my thoughts.
>
> "I know (Sir Alex) Ferguson is trying to make him a holding midfielder
> and that won't happen overnight.
>
> "I hope for him and England he will be successful. You have to
> consider him a centre-forward but also a midfielder."
>
> Liverpool's Steven Gerrard and Chelsea captain John Terry are both
> included in the squad despite carrying injuries.
>
> Full squad: Robinson (Tottenham), Green (Norwich), Kirkland
> (Liverpool); Young (Charlton), Warnock (Liverpool), P Neville
> (Everton), A Cole (Arsenal), Carragher (Liverpool), Ferdinand (Man
> Utd), Terry (Chelsea), Upson (Birmingham), Beckham (Real Madrid),
> Gerrard (Liverpool), Lampard (Chelsea), J Cole (Chelsea), Hargreaves
> (Bayern Munich), Wright-Phillips (Chelsea), Jenas (Newcastle), Carrick
> (Tottenham), Richardson (Man Utd); Owen* (Real Madrid), Rooney (Man
> Utd), Defoe (Tottenham), A Johnson (Crystal Palace), Bent (Charlton)
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> aint that a shame :-(
> im so sad to see him go!
>
>
> WUHAHAHAHAHA!!!! the tosser should not have played since the austria
> fuck up.

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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:32:19 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: Management games?

:)))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games. u have
> sinned u deluded one :))
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must be
> > other acceptable ones out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first 2
> > > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards (Was
> > > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really management
> > > either. All playing from what i remember
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > > - Kickoff
> > > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > > - Championship Manager
> > > > - Football Manager
> > > > - Total Club Manager
> > > >
> > > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
> football
> > > > games who were less good.
> > > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
> games on
> > > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Everybody does!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > I am curious
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone playing football management games like Championship
> > > > Manager,
> > > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :))

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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:43:01 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

That is very funny! Can you make such jokes about Villa too? :))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> So that makes 2 in total!
>
> get some mates round and the ground will be full ;-)
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Stoke just got another fan then. :)))
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is full
> > > of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> > > Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> > > stadium :)
> > >
> > > No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
> > >
> > > I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager and
> > > few Belgian players ;)
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more after
> > > this
> > > > season :))
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
and
> > > i am
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
wiser......yeah
> > > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:44:33 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

We are at the Championship!!!!

5th place would aready by nice for now.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> Midlands team, good man! :-) I wanna see them go up this season
>
> Do you think they will make it out of the conferance ;-)
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > It's always sad to see a team leaving his own stadium which is full
> > of history. Just like with Bayern Munchen.
> > Bayern's stadium was very ugly in my opinion, but it was their
> > stadium :)
> >
> > No, I don't think I will go to Arsenal this season.
> >
> > I became a Stoke fan thanks to their new Dutch/Belgian manager and
> > few Belgian players ;)
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > u planning to go this season then? highbury will be no more after
> > this
> > > season :))
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > Yep, congratulations.
> > > > Good to hear you got wiser.
> > > > We could even go to Highbury together someday ;)
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and
> > i am
> > > > the
> > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > > bollocks
> > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick

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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:46:59 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Match Preview - Norwich City

By The Oatcake
Date: 27/8/2005

Match Preview | We take a look at Nigel Worthington's Norwich City
ahead of our meeting at the Britannia Stadium on Bank Holiday Monday.
Stoke lost at Crystal Palace on Saturday while the Canaries suffered a
home defeat to Leeds United. Worthington's men are still looking for
their first win

NORWICH CITY PREVIEW

Who Are They?

Division One champions two years ago, the Canaries' return to the
Premiership lasted just the one season, finishing second from bottom
after a difficult campaign. Manager Nigel Worthington now has the task
of guiding the club back up at the first time of asking. Long serving
midfielders Gary Holt and Phil Mulryne have both been allowed to leave
this summer, ex Stokie Holt joining Nottingham Forest while Mulryne
has found his way to Cardiff City. Defender Marc Edworthy has also
departed while Thomas Helveg has completed a move to German side
Borussia Moenchengladbach after his International manager said he
didn't want him to be playing in the English 'Second' Division this
season. The big money departure from Carrow Road has been Damien
Francis; the former Wimbledon man completing a move to top flight new
boys Wigan Athletic.

The midfield gaps left behind by Holt and Francis have been filled by
the arrival of Wigan midfielder Jason Jarrett, who spent a month on
loan with the Potters at the start of last year, and Andy Hughes, who
has come in from Reading. Midfielder Dean Marney also has signed on
loan from Spurs while Mattieu Louis-Jean has come in to replace the
departed Edworthy at full-back. Another new defender is Dutchman
Jurgen Collin, a £250,000 signing from NAC Breda. Finally, Worthington
has strengthened his already impressive forward-line, bringing in ex
Stoke star Peter Thorne for a pittance. On that note you would expect
Norwich to have made a better start to the season than they actually
have done. The promotion favourites arrive at the Britannia Stadium on
Monday night fourth from bottom and still looking for their first win
of the season.

Key Players

The Canaries still boast the bones of the team who won the title
during their last spell at this level. Goalkeeper Robert Green, capped
by England, remains at the club despite many in the media tipping a
host of Premiership sides to snap him up before the transfer deadline.
Green is City's first choice goalkeeper and joined the club as a
trainee back in 1996. He's recently made his 200th appearance for the
club. Adam Drury and Craig Fleming are familiar faces in defence while
the presence of Malky MacKay has been replaced with another home grown
player, Jason Shackell, who made a regular breakthrough in the
Premiership last season. Former Lincoln, Newcastle and Coventry man
Darren Huckerby links the midfield and attack and remains a very
dangerous player. He should score a few more than the seven he managed
in the Premiership during '04/05. Boosted by the signing of Thorne,
Norwich already showcase one of the most impressive forward lines in
the Championship. Dean Ashton was arguably the best player in this
Division during the first half of last season. He scored twenty goals
for Crewe Alexandra before his £3 million move to Carrow Road in
January. He then added another seven in a yellow shirt. Alongside the
former Railwayman is Leon MacKenzie. Having began his career at
Crystal Palace, MacKenzie made a name for himself at Peterborough
United, scoring 49 goals in under 100 starts for Posh. With form like
that it was always on the cards that a bigger club would take a chance
on him and Nigel Worthington paid £325,000 to secure his services in
December 2003. He endeared himself to the Canaries faithful on his
debut when he scored two goals in an away win over derby rivals
Ipswich Town. Seven goals in the Premiership last season saw a
promising partnership with new boy Ashton begin to flourish.

What Have They Won?

The Canaries' best top flight season came following the formation of
the Premiership. In 1992/93 they finished third to qualify for the
UEFA Cup. It was in Europe where they pulled off one of the greatest
modern day shocks of the competition; Mike Walker's City side knocking
out Bayern Munich to become the first English side to beat the German
club on their own soil. Norwich have also won the League Cup twice, in
1962 and 1985.

Us And Them

Our last two meetings at the Britannia Stadium have finished in 1-1
draws. We also have a habit of meeting the Canaries at home early on
in the season. At the start of 2002/03 we entertained them at the end
of August and fell behind to an Adam Drury goal. The Potters equalised
when 18 year old Kris Commons (right) linked up with Marc Goodfellow
to score a spectacular goal after running through a crowd of players.
In the Canaries' championship winning season we met at the Brit in
September and took a first half lead when ex Canary Ade Akinbiyi set
up Gifton Noel-Williams. Norwich grabbed an equaliser in the second
half when Darren Huckerby fired home at the far post. Our last win
over City came at the Britannia Stadium in April 1998 when Larus
Sigurdsson and Kyle Lightbourne both found the back of the net in an
end of season relegation scrap at the Brit, Stoke went down while the
Canaries managed to stay up.

Player Connections

Former Stoke manager Gary Megson was an ex Norwich man and a key
player in their drive up towards the top of the Premier League in the
early nineties. He also had a short spell as manager before eventually
finding his way to Stoke, taking over from Brian Little in 1999. In
more recent times Gary Holt has been an important player for the
Canaries for a number of years although he started his football career
with Stoke City after Lou Macari signed him out of the army along with
Justin Whittle. Holt never made a first team start for the Potters but
went on to make an impact with Kilmarnock. Current Norwich boss Nigel
Worthington bought the curtain down on his career at the Victoria
Ground. He was signed as a replacement for Sheffield United bound Lee
Sandford in the summer of 1996 and started the season as our first
choice left-back before eventually losing his place in the side to 17
year old starlet Andy Griffin. Worthington went on to manage Blackpool
before finding his way to Carrow Road in December 2000, taking over
from Brian Hamilton.

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:50:27 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I don't think West/east germany, or Czechslovakia had CCCP on their
shirts... :)))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Peacok" <Eddcases@y...>
wrote:
> I remember USSR but didnt they used to wear CCCP on thers shirts?
> and also West/east germany, czechslovakia not czech rep.
> those were the days!
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> > Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > :))
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Happy birthday!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
and i
> > > > am the
> > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:55:38 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: Management games?

The 3D engine is the best. You see players and not balls posing as
players. You see the stadiums with all their distinctive features. you
get to manage all aspects of the club and you are not restricted to a
budget, but that also calls for more responsable management. And you
can create your own team and start from the regional amateur leagues
and fight your way to the Premiership....if you can :)))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> why not?
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > Football manager sucks big time.
> > championship manager was great but its indeed not as good as TCM.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games. u have
> > > sinned u deluded one :))
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must
> > be
> > > > other acceptable ones out there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first
> > 2
> > > > > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards
> > (Was
> > > > > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really
> > management
> > > > > either. All playing from what i remember
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > > > > - Kickoff
> > > > > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > > > > - Championship Manager
> > > > > > - Football Manager
> > > > > > - Total Club Manager
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
> > > football
> > > > > > games who were less good.
> > > > > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
> > > games on
> > > > > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everybody does!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I am curious
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone playing football management games like
> > Championship
> > > > > > Manager,
> > > > > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so
> > on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :))

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