Sunday, August 28, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1582

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Chelsea start new season in style
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
2. Loko Plovdiv president shot dead
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
3. Goor back after suspension
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
4. Andorra set for autumn kick-off
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
5. Re: Chelsea start new season in style
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
6. Oh dear :))
From: Adrian Bagley <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
7. Re: With goalie at a concert, Belgian girls football team suffers 50-1 defeat
From: marta_grimsdottir
8. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: marta_grimsdottir
9. Re: France fall away
From: marta_grimsdottir
10. Re: Management games?
From: marta_grimsdottir
11. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: marta_grimsdottir
12. Re: Management games?
From: marta_grimsdottir
13. #$&%@§%$£!!!!
From: marta_grimsdottir
14. Re: The WSC god has aged again.....
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
15. Re: Management games?
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:53:45 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Chelsea start new season in style

English champions Chelsea have picked up where they left off as the
2005/06 season takes shape, a 0-2 win at Tottenham Hotspur on
Saturday afternoon giving José Mourinho's side a fourth successive
Premiership victory and maintaining their position as the early
pacesetters.

Unbeaten beginnings
Both sides at White Hart Lane had made impressive starts to the new
season, Chelsea leading the table at the start of play with nine
points from three matches and the home side two points behind. In
addition, neither had conceded a league goal in their first three
games - Chelsea last conceded a league match on the final game of the
2004/05 season against Newcastle United, while Tottenham's backline
had not been breached in 439 minutes of competitive football.

Chelsea dominance
The stage seemed set for a tight contest, with Tottenham looking for
their first league success against their London rivals in 31
attempts. The north London outfit had not defeated Chelsea in the
English top flight since a 2-1 win at Stamford Bridge in February
1990, and had failed to collect three points at home against the same
opponents since August 1987.

Derby delight
Furthermore, the champions came into the match in buoyant fashion
having run out 4-0 winners against West Bromwich Albion in midweek,
and earned their first league success against another north london
side, Arsenal, in a decade last Sunday. Mourinho's men had not tasted
defeat in a London derby since losing 2-1 at home against Arsenal on
21 February 2004 and Tottenham's hopes of ending that record suffered
a significant setback in the 25th minute when Egyptian forward Mido
was sent off following an aerial challenge on Asier Del Horno.

Del Horno quality
Del Horno, a €12m summer signing from Athletic Club Bilbao, was
brought in to strengthen Chelsea in the left-back position, and has
settled in quickly at Stamford Bridge. His defensive strength had
already been noted, but the Spanish international provided ample
evidence of his attacking qualities at White Hart Lane, glancing in
Frank Lampard's corner on 38 minutes to give the visitors the lead.

Money no object
The different transfer policies of the two sides gives an
illuminating view of their respective standings. While Tottenham have
concentrated on acquiring promising young players with the potential
to develop into world-class talents, Chelsea can afford to splash out
on the finished article. One such signing was the architect of
Chelsea's clinching second goal with 19 minutes remaining, Shaun
Wright-Phillips - who joined from Manchester City in a €30.4m move -
crossing for Damien Duff to finish from close range and condemn
Tottenham to their first home defeat since January, also against
Chelsea.

Depth of talent
With Mourinho able to introduce three internationals - England's
Wright-Phillips, Robert Huth of Germany and Argentina striker Hernán
Crespo - as substitutes and Iceland's Eidur Gudjohnsen an unused
replacement, the depth of talent in Chelsea's squad was clear for all
to see. The new season may be only four games old, but already the
champions look in ominously good shape.

Current table:
1. Chelsea.......... 4 4 0 0 8-0 12
2. Manchester City.. 4 3 1 0 6-3 10
3. Bolton Wanderers. 4 2 1 1 6-4 7
4. Tottenham Hotspur 4 2 1 1 4-2 7
5. Arsenal.......... 3 2 0 1 6-2 6
6. Charlton Athletic 2 2 0 0 4-1 6
7. Manchester Utd... 2 2 0 0 3-0 6
8. Aston Villa...... 4 1 2 1 4-4 5
9. West Ham United.. 3 1 1 1 4-3 4
10.Middlesbrough.... 3 1 1 1 3-2 4
11.Liverpool........ 2 1 1 0 1-0 4
12.Blackburn Rovers. 4 1 1 2 3-5 4
13.Birmingham....... 4 1 1 2 4-7 4
14.Fulham........... 4 1 1 2 3-6 4
15.West Brom........ 4 1 1 2 4-8 4
16.Wigan............ 3 1 0 2 1-2 3
17.Everton.......... 3 1 0 2 1-3 3
18.Portsmouth....... 4 0 1 3 3-7 1
19.Newcastle United. 3 0 1 2 0-4 1
20.Sunderland....... 4 0 0 4 2-7 0

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Too bad Mido got a red card, could have been a different game.

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:03:25 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Loko Plovdiv president shot dead

Georgi Iliev, president of Bulgarian club Lokomotiv Plovdiv, was shot
dead within an hour of his side sealing a place in the UEFA Cup first
round.

Beach resort
After losing the first leg 2-1 in Serbia and Montenegro, Loko Plovdiv
defeated OFK Beograd 1-0 in the seaside town of Burgas to progress on
away goals. The president was celebrating the victory in a bar he
owned in the nearby resort of Sunny Beach when he was shot.

Wealthy businessman
An investigation has been launched into the incident, but there has
been no indication that the death of the wealthy businessman was
football-related. The 39-year-old was devoted to Lokomotiv, where he
became president in 2001 after merging the club with his own team,
Velbazhd Kyustendil.

First title
The newly-formed side achieved massive success in winning their first-
ever Bulgarian title in 2004. As a mark of respect to the dead
president, Loko Plovdiv's league game against CSKA Sofia on Sunday is
expected to be postponed. They will meet Bolton Wanderers in the UEFA
Cup first round on 15 and 29 September.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/UEFACup/330242_
BIGLANDSCAPE.jpg

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In other words, don't mess with Serbians ;)

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:07:44 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Goor back after suspension

Belgium coach Aimé Anthuenis has added Bart Goor to his squad for the
2006 World Cup qualifiers against Bosnia-Herzegovina and San Marino.
Goor was handed a five-match ban for spitting at an opponent in
October, but his suspension will be over in time for the second of
those games on 7 September.

Belgium squad:
Goalkeepers: Silvio Proto (Anderlecht) and Frédéric Herpoel (Gent).

Defenders: Vincent Kompany (Anderlecht), Olivier Doll (Lokeren),
Olivier Deschacht (Anderlecht), Philippe Léonard (Standard), Daniel
Van Buyten (Hamburg), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Jelle Van
Damme (Werder Bremen).

Midfielders: Roberto Bisconti (Nice), Philippe Clement (Club Brugge),
Koen Daerden (Genk), Karel Geraerts (Standard), Yves Vanderhaeghe
(Anderlecht), Timmy Simons (PSV Eindhoven), Bart Goor (Anderlecht).

Forwards: Thomas Buffel (Rangers), Mbo Mbenza (Anderlecht), Emile
Mpenza (Hamburger), Luigi Pieroni (Auxerre), Kevin Vandenbergh (Genk).

**************************

Well, Goor is unfortunately still suspended for the game in Bosnia,
but will be able to play against San Marino.

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:09:23 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Andorra set for autumn kick-off

The Andorran Football Federation (FAF) has decided that the new
season will kick off on 25 September.

Dates set
The eight teams participating in the 2005/06 First Division - UE Sant
Julià, FC Santa Coloma, Atlètic Club d'Escaldes, FC Ranger's, CE
Principat, Inter Club d'Escaldes, FC Lusitans and promoted UE
Extremenya - will start their fixtures a week after champions Sant
Julià play cup holders Santa Coloma in the Andorran Super Cup on 18
September.

Elections due
The clubs have still to decide whether they will take a mid-season
break in January and February to avoid weather conditions hampering
players. However, FAF elections will be held on 5 September, with
chairman Francesc Amat having confirmed he will stand for a second
term. As yet, no other candidate has emerged to oppose him.

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Let the games begin :D

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:35:52 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea start new season in style

the red card was no where near justified. it changed the face of the
game as we dominated big time before that. lucky chelsea again

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> English champions Chelsea have picked up where they left off as the
> 2005/06 season takes shape, a 0-2 win at Tottenham Hotspur on
> Saturday afternoon giving José Mourinho's side a fourth successive
> Premiership victory and maintaining their position as the early
> pacesetters.
>
> Unbeaten beginnings
> Both sides at White Hart Lane had made impressive starts to the new
> season, Chelsea leading the table at the start of play with nine
> points from three matches and the home side two points behind. In
> addition, neither had conceded a league goal in their first three
> games - Chelsea last conceded a league match on the final game of the
> 2004/05 season against Newcastle United, while Tottenham's backline
> had not been breached in 439 minutes of competitive football.
>
> Chelsea dominance
> The stage seemed set for a tight contest, with Tottenham looking for
> their first league success against their London rivals in 31
> attempts. The north London outfit had not defeated Chelsea in the
> English top flight since a 2-1 win at Stamford Bridge in February
> 1990, and had failed to collect three points at home against the same
> opponents since August 1987.
>
> Derby delight
> Furthermore, the champions came into the match in buoyant fashion
> having run out 4-0 winners against West Bromwich Albion in midweek,
> and earned their first league success against another north london
> side, Arsenal, in a decade last Sunday. Mourinho's men had not tasted
> defeat in a London derby since losing 2-1 at home against Arsenal on
> 21 February 2004 and Tottenham's hopes of ending that record suffered
> a significant setback in the 25th minute when Egyptian forward Mido
> was sent off following an aerial challenge on Asier Del Horno.
>
> Del Horno quality
> Del Horno, a €12m summer signing from Athletic Club Bilbao, was
> brought in to strengthen Chelsea in the left-back position, and has
> settled in quickly at Stamford Bridge. His defensive strength had
> already been noted, but the Spanish international provided ample
> evidence of his attacking qualities at White Hart Lane, glancing in
> Frank Lampard's corner on 38 minutes to give the visitors the lead.
>
> Money no object
> The different transfer policies of the two sides gives an
> illuminating view of their respective standings. While Tottenham have
> concentrated on acquiring promising young players with the potential
> to develop into world-class talents, Chelsea can afford to splash out
> on the finished article. One such signing was the architect of
> Chelsea's clinching second goal with 19 minutes remaining, Shaun
> Wright-Phillips - who joined from Manchester City in a €30.4m move -
> crossing for Damien Duff to finish from close range and condemn
> Tottenham to their first home defeat since January, also against
> Chelsea.
>
> Depth of talent
> With Mourinho able to introduce three internationals - England's
> Wright-Phillips, Robert Huth of Germany and Argentina striker Hernán
> Crespo - as substitutes and Iceland's Eidur Gudjohnsen an unused
> replacement, the depth of talent in Chelsea's squad was clear for all
> to see. The new season may be only four games old, but already the
> champions look in ominously good shape.
>
>
> Current table:
> 1. Chelsea.......... 4 4 0 0 8-0 12
> 2. Manchester City.. 4 3 1 0 6-3 10
> 3. Bolton Wanderers. 4 2 1 1 6-4 7
> 4. Tottenham Hotspur 4 2 1 1 4-2 7
> 5. Arsenal.......... 3 2 0 1 6-2 6
> 6. Charlton Athletic 2 2 0 0 4-1 6
> 7. Manchester Utd... 2 2 0 0 3-0 6
> 8. Aston Villa...... 4 1 2 1 4-4 5
> 9. West Ham United.. 3 1 1 1 4-3 4
> 10.Middlesbrough.... 3 1 1 1 3-2 4
> 11.Liverpool........ 2 1 1 0 1-0 4
> 12.Blackburn Rovers. 4 1 1 2 3-5 4
> 13.Birmingham....... 4 1 1 2 4-7 4
> 14.Fulham........... 4 1 1 2 3-6 4
> 15.West Brom........ 4 1 1 2 4-8 4
> 16.Wigan............ 3 1 0 2 1-2 3
> 17.Everton.......... 3 1 0 2 1-3 3
> 18.Portsmouth....... 4 0 1 3 3-7 1
> 19.Newcastle United. 3 0 1 2 0-4 1
> 20.Sunderland....... 4 0 0 4 2-7 0
>
> ***********************
>
> Too bad Mido got a red card, could have been a different game.

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:10:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Adrian Bagley <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Oh dear :))

Rangers 0 Hibernian 3

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:21:44 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: With goalie at a concert, Belgian girls football team suffers 50-1 defeat

Annals? :))))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> the goalie got her own sort of goals back stage LOL
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > A third-division provincial girls football team entered the annals of
> > Belgian soccer on Saturday after suffering a crushing 50-1 defeat
> > because of the absence of a single but crucial player: their music-
> > loving goalkeeper.
> >
> > SK Berlaar's goal was left unguarded in a match with FC Malines after
> > its goalie opted instead to go to a rock festival, Het Laatste Nieuws
> > reported Monday.
> >
> > "Kick-off, move upfield and in it goes. That was repeated without a
> > halt. At half-time, it was already 27-to-0," the Flemish newspaper
> > said, describing how 16-year-old Charlotte Jacobs tried in vain to
> > defend the goal in the absence of the usual goal-keeper.
> >
> > "We came back in the second half. We only took 23 goals and we even
> > made one at the end. They let us score, that was nice," the teenager
> > said.
> >
> > "If you subtract the time needed to get the ball from the net and
> > bring it to centre-field, we can say that the girls from Malines
> > scored almost every minute," she remarked.
> >
> > "Luckily, there's no return match," team captain Julie Lemmens said
> > more bitterly.
> >
> > But SK Berlaar's secretary, Jan Verbinnen, was unmoved by the loss
> > and saw a way of inverting the outcome, noting that the other team
> > had registered 16 instead of 15 players for the match.
> >
> > "If I tell the Federation, they will have lost the match 5-0 and will
> > be eliminated from the championships," he told the newspaper.
> >
> > ****************************
> >
> > Can't be that bad even with a reserve goalie :p

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:22:39 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

Feels like a wonderful place to live in right now. :)))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > :))
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > Happy birthday!
> > > >
> > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today and i
> > > am the
> > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year wiser......yeah
> > > bollocks
> > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:23:17 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: France fall away

Iceland is great any time of year

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> Is Iceland nice this time of the year?
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Iceland dropped 2 spots!!!! I don't like this ranking no more!!! :((
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Two CONCACAF teams in top 6 LOL
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > With only 24 `A' international matches having been played in the
> last
> > > > four weeks, there are few major changes in August's FIFA World
> > > > Ranking. Brazil, Argentina, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic,
> > > > Mexico and Gold Cup winners the USA continue to occupy the top
six
> > > > positions, but England (7th, up 1) overtake Spain (8th, no
change).
> > > >
> > > > Due to a devaluation of past results, the French (9th, down 2)
> > > > continue to lose ground and they are now in their lowest position
> > > > since winning the World Cup in 1998.
> > > >
> > > > This month's major movers are to be found lower down the ranking,
> > > > with Cosafa Cup winners Zimbabwe (51st, up 2) and defeated
> finalists
> > > > Zambia (56th, up 6) narrowly missing out on joining the top 50.
> Qatar
> > > > (68th, up 7) and Gold Cup finalists Panama (77th, up 6) also
climb
> > > > more than five places. Panama, defeated by the USA only on
> penalties
> > > > in the final of the Gold Cup, currently sit in their highest ever
> > > > position in the FIFA World Ranking.
> > > >
> > > > Given the lack of movement in the upper echelons of the
ranking, it
> > > > is hardly surprising that there is no change to the regional
> > > > composition of the top 50. With 26 representatives, UEFA still
> boasts
> > > > more than half of the top 50, with the remaining teams coming
from
> > > > CAF (8), CONMEBOL (6), CONCACAF (5) and AFC (5).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Brazil......................837...0
> > > > 2. Argentina...................782...0
> > > > 3. Netherlands.................780...0
> > > > 4. Czech Republic..............777...0
> > > > 5. Mexico......................770...0
> > > > 6. USA.........................768...0
> > > > 7. England.....................743...+1
> > > > 8. Spain.......................739...0
> > > > 9. France......................737...-2
> > > > 9. Portugal....................737...+1
> > > > 11.Germany.....................722...0
> > > > 12.Turkey......................712...0
> > > > 13.Italy.......................711...+1
> > > > 14.Republic of Ireland.........709...+1
> > > > 15.Iran........................708...0
> > > > 15.Sweden......................708...+2
> > > > 17.Japan.......................706...-4
> > > > 18.Greece......................696...+1
> > > > 18.Denmark.....................696...+1
> > > > 20.Croatia.....................693...+2
> > > > Some others:
> > > > 23.Korea Republic..............681...-2
> > > > 25.Uruguay.....................675...-7
> > > > 52.Belgium.....................585...-2
> > > > 53.Trinidad and Tobago.........574...+5
> > > > 56.Zambia......................569...+6
> > > > 57.Australia...................568...+3
> > > > 57.Iraq........................568...-5
> > > > 62.Uzbekistan..................561...-9
> > > > 63.Jordan......................560...-6
> > > > 68.Oman........................549...-4
> > > > 68.Qatar.......................549...+7
> > > > 71.Angola......................546...-3
> > > > 77.Panama......................540...+6
> > > > 83.Wales.......................517...-3
> > > > 94.Iceland.....................486...-2
> > > > 97.Indonesia...................478...-5
> > > > 105.Cyprus.....................443...+4
> > > > 116.Northern Ireland...........410...-4
> > > > 130.Mozambique.................352...+4
> > > > 134.Andorra....................346...+1
> > > > 137.Fiji.......................338...+4
> > > > 162.Sierra Leone...............218...-6
> > > > 180.Mongolia...................141...+3
> > > > 183.Central African Republic...140...-3
> > > >
> > > > ***************************
> > > >
> > > > The French are finaly loosing some spots :)

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:25:19 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: Management games?

I am with Total Club Manager as well now. Before that it was all play
and non management games except for those really old ones from
Spectrum. But don't even remember the names now

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> - Kickoff
> - Sensible World of Soccer
> - Championship Manager
> - Football Manager
> - Total Club Manager
>
> With of course several versions of all those and a few other football
> games who were less good.
> Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA games on
> PS. TCM is what I currently use.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Everybody does!
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > I am curious
> > >
> > > Anyone playing football management games like Championship
> Manager,
> > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so on?
> > >
> > > :))

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:27:06 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

I have a hard time believing that since we have a american base
here... :))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Soviet submarines went overthere :)
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> > Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > :))
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Happy birthday!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
> and i
> > > > am the
> > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
> wiser......yeah
> > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:28:51 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: Re: Management games?

TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must be
other acceptable ones out there.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first 2
> versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards (Was
> more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really management
> either. All playing from what i remember
>
> Nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > - Kickoff
> > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > - Championship Manager
> > - Football Manager
> > - Total Club Manager
> >
> > With of course several versions of all those and a few other football
> > games who were less good.
> > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA games on
> > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Everybody does!
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > I am curious
> > > >
> > > > Anyone playing football management games like Championship
> > Manager,
> > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so on?
> > > >
> > > > :))

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:34:21 -0000
From: marta_grimsdottir
Subject: #$&%@§%$£!!!!

Crystal Palace 2 Stoke 0

Palace: Kiraly, Boyce, Ward, F Hall, Borrowdale, Soares, Leigertwood,
Watson (Hughes 70), McAnuff (Riihilahti 74), Macken (Morrison 74),
Johnson. Subs: Andrews, Speroni.

City: Simonsen, Buxton, Bromes, Hoefkens, Duberry, Brammer, Chadwick
(Wilkinson 86), Henry, Kolar (Harper 45), Junior (Dyer 78), Sidibe.
Subs: De Goey, Taggart.

Andy Johnson proved more than a handful for Premiership defences last
season.

And he's still scoring goals of Premiership quality in the Championship.

City had no-one to match him at Selhurst Park and that's essentially
why they left south-east London with nothing to show for their efforts
despite plenty of neat football.

Johnson was the difference in a game when there was otherwise little
to choose between the two teams and that gives Potters boss Johan
Boskamp plenty to ponder as he strives to line up a new striker before
next Wednesday's transfer window closes.

The Eagles striker netted 21 times last term, has five already this
campaign, and City won't be the first to fall to his clinical ways
before the season is over.

His first goal, a minute before the end of an evenly-balanced
first-half, was an impressive show of power and precision as he found
the net despite Steve Simonsen's full-stretch dive.

His second, five minutes from the end, showed a deft touch as he
clipped his shot over the diving Simonsen after an exchange of passes
with Clinton Morrison opened up City.

By contrast, the home defence was rarely as fatally exposed, although
Mamady Sidibe, Martin Kolar and Carl Hoefkens all had a sight of goal.

It was Sidibe who drew the first save of note from Gabor Kiraly, but
that was after 54 minutes, and the Palace `keeper was not called into
action again until he fielded a long-range effort from Dave Brammer
nine minutes from time.

City at least raised their game a level or three after Tuesday's
Carling Cup exit at Mansfield.

For long periods, particularly in the second-half, they outplayed
Palace and held the upper hand in midfield.

That was largely due to the manager's decision to play a 4-4-1-1
formation, with the recalled Junior - back after serving his
three-match ban - tucked in behind lone striker Sidibe.

That approach was discarded when Bruce Dyer was thrown on for the last
12 minutes, but it would be harsh to say the tactic failed given the
amount of possession City enjoyed.

In fact, it succeeded in largely stifling the Palace threat, which was
just about non-existent when the ball was not in Johnson's vicinity.

He posted notice of his impending threat after 28 minutes, thumping a
shot against the post from six yards after being teed up by Emerson Boyce.

Six minutes earlier, Sidibe had almost notched his first goal of the
campaign, stealing space between Fitz Hall and Darren Ward to take a
clear header from Brammer's cross. But the effort drifted wide.

Palace fans were still groaning over Johnson's near miss when City
went close again - a rapid breakout from the let-off ending with
Martin Kolar firing into the side netting from 14 yards.

Carl Hoefkens took time out from policing Johnson to head wide from
Kolar's corner three minutes later and City looked good value for
going into the break level.

But that changed when Johnson took a pass from Macken, rolled the ball
around his feet to create space for a shot, and crashed the ball home
from 20 yards.

The home side's diluted threat after the interval was best summed up
by the fact it took them 37 minutes to win a corner.

Ian Dowie shuffled his pack and sent on latest signing Morrison to
begin his second spell at the club, and it proved decisive when the
substitute traded his passes with Johnson and left City's defenders
looking towards the line for an offside flag as the striker raced
through to finish the contest.

In a league as tight as the Championship, Johnson is a prize
commodity. There's something similar looming on Monday evening when
Dean Ashton arrives at the Britannia Stadium in the colours of Norwich.

City will complete their back-to-back Bank Holiday fixtures against
another club relegated from the Premiership last May.

There's no doubt they have more than enough ability to match the
Canaries at playing football. But can they outscore them?
________________

5 matches, 7 points. But only 5 points behind first place. For now...
:((((

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:02:42 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The WSC god has aged again.....

we dont have an american base! this is a mainly european base we got
here :P

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I have a hard time believing that since we have a american base
> here... :))
>
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > Soviet submarines went overthere :)
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > How does it feel to have never known about the USSR, communist
> > > Germany, Live Aid, to never have seen Maradona...
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > :))
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > wow
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Happy birthday!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll be 22 in 2008 :)))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CONGRATS!!!!! I was 22 in 1988 :))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yes the rumours are true people. I am a year older today
> > and i
> > > > > am the
> > > > > > > > grand old age of 22. A year older and a year
> > wiser......yeah
> > > > > bollocks
> > > > > > > > to that! Lol! Will be getting very pissed tonight :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nick

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:05:03 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Management games?

football manager (aka cm) is the god of all management games. u have
sinned u deluded one :))

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> TCM rules now! It doesn't get more real than that. But there must be
> other acceptable ones out there.
>
>
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > You missed out Premier Manager!!! That was awesome in its first 2
> > versions........went down hill from Premier Manager 3 onwards (Was
> > more popular than CM back then!). Kickoff wasn't really management
> > either. All playing from what i remember
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > Oh yes, if I remember well, it started like this:
> > > - Kickoff
> > > - Sensible World of Soccer
> > > - Championship Manager
> > > - Football Manager
> > > - Total Club Manager
> > >
> > > With of course several versions of all those and a few other
football
> > > games who were less good.
> > > Football manager sucks though, while I never played any FIFA
games on
> > > PS. TCM is what I currently use.
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Everybody does!
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, marta_grimsdottir
> > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I am curious
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone playing football management games like Championship
> > > Manager,
> > > > > Football Manager, LMA Manager, Total Club Manager and so on?
> > > > >
> > > > > :))

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