Thursday, August 11, 2005

[inter-mania] Digest Number 1498

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Editorial Goal.com
From: "Endai Rifani" <endai.rifani@kabelvision.com>
2. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: Abu Rasyidin <rasyidin@gmail.com>
3. RE: Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "Tinggogoy, Ronald: Mr." <ronald.tinggogoy@epcos.com>
4. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "muswarah" <muswara@merapi.net>
5. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "ryan_antonisz" <ryan_antonisz@yahoo.com>
6. Fw: Editorial Goal.com
From: "DAPHermanto" <phing@indocement.co.id>
7. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>
8. RE: Editorial Goal.com
From: "Tinggogoy, Ronald: Mr." <ronald.tinggogoy@epcos.com>
9. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>
10. Re: Editorial Goal.com
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:53:35 +0700
From: "Endai Rifani" <endai.rifani@kabelvision.com>
Subject: Editorial Goal.com

Seorang psikopat menulis editorial di goal.com mengkritisi kebijakan belanja Inter di musim 2005/2006. Tampaknya si penulis gila itu seorang fanatik juprit atau mungkin orang gila yang sudah dicuci otaknya oleh ace melet sehingga mengidap Interphobia. Dalam artikel itu disebutkan bahwa : They refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who are beyond their prime.

Seseorang yang bisa menulis kata ini pasti orang tolol yang sangat bodoh atau orang yang tidak mengerti sepak bola sama sekali tapi pura-pura pinter. Inter telah melakukan pembelian paling cemerlang tahun ini dalam kurun waktu 10 tahun terakhir. Dan yang paling hebat adalah, tidak ada pembelian yang terlalu mahal. Figo dan Solari bahkan didapatkan dengan harga super murah. kedatangan mereka berdua ditambah Pizzaro merupakan jawaban jitu dari Inter mengenai bombardir pernyataan bahwa Inter memiliki lini tengah amburadul. Ditambah Veron, Stan dan Cambiasso lini tengah akan menjadi kekuatan yang menakutkan, tidak kalah dibandingkan dengan lini tengah juprit dan ace melet. Bahkan saya yakin lebih hebat ..

Samuel dan Wome datang diwaktu yang tepat, lubang di pertahanan dapat ditutup rapat. Mengacu pada hasil paruh kedua musim yang lalu, dimana jumlah kebobolan Inter tidak lebih banyak dibandingkan dng juprit dan ace melet menegaskan bahwa Mancini telah menemukan ritme yang dibutuhkan. Kini dengan kehadiran Samuel The Wall, duet pemain tsb dengan Cordie di sentral pertahanan sama tangguh dengan duet Canna-Thuram di juprit dan Nesta-Stam di ace melet. Bahkan lebih tangguh karena usia samuel-cordie lebih muda dibandingkan dgn duet kepunyaan juprit dan ace melet.

Inter memang melepas bakat muda Emre, VDM dan old crack Davids dan Vieri. Pembelian yang cemerlang menutup cerita kepergian mereka semua. Untuk nama terakhir digadang-gadang oleh penulis sbg pembelian yg tepat ace melet karena berada dalam usia emas. Sebuah hal yang sulit diterima akal, karena dgn usia 32 tahun kemampuan Vieri jauh menurun dibandingkan ketika pertama kali didatangkan dari Lazio. Ditambah dengan cedera hobi banget mampir. Motivasi Vieri pindah sedikit banyak karena ngambek sulitnya mendapat tempat di starting line up Inter, kita lihat saja nanti gimana reaksi dia begitu mendapat kenyataan mesti bersaing dgn sheva, gila dan inzaghi di team yang demen masang satu striker.

Singkat kata, jika diadu head to head semua lini, Inter gak kalah dibandingin juprit dan ace melet... even much better.
Scudetto is possibility and ECL is probably ...

-bravo nerazzurra-

http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=79116&progr=0

Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter and Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight in Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the season even begins.
Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their season, and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't materialize to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and Serginho. Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson and Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal in midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the following acquisitions.

Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get injured, Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly, watching the partnership play together showed that they work better individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many chances. Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and since it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he will make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the Primiera still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of time on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.

Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and Mihajlovic are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.

Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces come and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.

Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for Crespo. The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has opted for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any single defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both players play the same role.

Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper, all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and getting to know your team-mates.

Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was now a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the team for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.
In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is a good one.

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and Inter has 3.

Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic, maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.

Nicola Rotundo

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:59:20 +0700
From: Abu Rasyidin <rasyidin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

haha, gue juga sempat ngisi tuh di kommentnya artikel itu.

dibilang kalo cordie dan samuel cedera, matte dan miha bukan pengganti
yg sekualitas...
apa ngga ngeliat, jupe dan melon punya apa? canna dan thuram kalo
cedera siapa yg ganti? tudor? jauuuh...montero udah tua bgt..
gimana dgn melon? kalo nesta dan stam cedera, apa costacurta dan simic
pengganti yg sepadan?

goal.com hanya bagus untuk kecepatan berita updatenya. Untuk Editorial, suckxx
abis..

Salam,
Forza Nerazzurri
Road to Scudetto and ECL Winner

On 8/11/05, Endai Rifani <endai.rifani@kabelvision.com> wrote:
> Seorang psikopat menulis editorial di goal.com mengkritisi kebijakan belanja
> Inter di musim 2005/2006. Tampaknya si penulis gila itu seorang fanatik
> juprit atau mungkin orang gila yang sudah dicuci otaknya oleh ace melet
> sehingga mengidap Interphobia. Dalam artikel itu disebutkan bahwa : They
> refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of
> money for talent who are beyond their prime.
>
> Seseorang yang bisa menulis kata ini pasti orang tolol yang sangat bodoh
> atau orang yang tidak mengerti sepak bola sama sekali tapi pura-pura pinter.
> Inter telah melakukan pembelian paling cemerlang tahun ini dalam kurun waktu
> 10 tahun terakhir. Dan yang paling hebat adalah, tidak ada pembelian yang
> terlalu mahal. Figo dan Solari bahkan didapatkan dengan harga super murah.
> kedatangan mereka berdua ditambah Pizzaro merupakan jawaban jitu dari Inter
> mengenai bombardir pernyataan bahwa Inter memiliki lini tengah amburadul.
> Ditambah Veron, Stan dan Cambiasso lini tengah akan menjadi kekuatan yang
> menakutkan, tidak kalah dibandingkan dengan lini tengah juprit dan ace
> melet. Bahkan saya yakin lebih hebat ..
>
> Samuel dan Wome datang diwaktu yang tepat, lubang di pertahanan dapat
> ditutup rapat. Mengacu pada hasil paruh kedua musim yang lalu, dimana jumlah
> kebobolan Inter tidak lebih banyak dibandingkan dng juprit dan ace melet
> menegaskan bahwa Mancini telah menemukan ritme yang dibutuhkan. Kini dengan
> kehadiran Samuel The Wall, duet pemain tsb dengan Cordie di sentral
> pertahanan sama tangguh dengan duet Canna-Thuram di juprit dan Nesta-Stam di
> ace melet. Bahkan lebih tangguh karena usia samuel-cordie lebih muda
> dibandingkan dgn duet kepunyaan juprit dan ace melet.
>
> Inter memang melepas bakat muda Emre, VDM dan old crack Davids dan Vieri.
> Pembelian yang cemerlang menutup cerita kepergian mereka semua. Untuk nama
> terakhir digadang-gadang oleh penulis sbg pembelian yg tepat ace melet
> karena berada dalam usia emas. Sebuah hal yang sulit diterima akal, karena
> dgn usia 32 tahun kemampuan Vieri jauh menurun dibandingkan ketika pertama
> kali didatangkan dari Lazio. Ditambah dengan cedera hobi banget mampir.
> Motivasi Vieri pindah sedikit banyak karena ngambek sulitnya mendapat tempat
> di starting line up Inter, kita lihat saja nanti gimana reaksi dia begitu
> mendapat kenyataan mesti bersaing dgn sheva, gila dan inzaghi di team yang
> demen masang satu striker.
>
> Singkat kata, jika diadu head to head semua lini, Inter gak kalah
> dibandingin juprit dan ace melet... even much better.
> Scudetto is possibility and ECL is probably ...
>
> -bravo nerazzurra-
>
> http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=79116&progr=0
>
> Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of
> editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter and
> Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths
> to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight in
> Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that
> article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally
> with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article
> will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the
> season even begins.
> Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the
> transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their season,
> and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to
> purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for
> talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have
> quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't materialize
> to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo,
> Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus
> have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their
> squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere
> among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and Serginho.
> Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson and
> Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal in
> midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the
> following acquisitions.
>
> Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct
> move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than
> Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get injured,
> Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly,
> watching the partnership play together showed that they work better
> individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and
> Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of
> the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and
> because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.
>
> In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a
> fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched
> Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have
> managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid
> season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many chances.
> Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo
> from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the
> Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and since
> it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he will
> make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks
> speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the Primiera
> still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders
> hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of time
> on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to
> Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative
> like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.
>
> Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great
> purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in
> comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have
> improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and Mihajlovic
> are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.
>
> Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces come
> and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that
> cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.
>
> Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from
> Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for Crespo.
> The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has opted
> for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any single
> defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both
> players play the same role.
>
> Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an
> inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper,
> all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and
> getting to know your team-mates.
>
> Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who
> coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was now
> a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the team
> for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come
> mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are
> completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.
> In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is a
> good one.
>
> So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and
> Inter has 3.
>
> Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic,
> maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.
>
> Nicola Rotundo
>
>

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:20:13 +0700
From: "Tinggogoy, Ronald: Mr." <ronald.tinggogoy@epcos.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Editorial Goal.com

Ini sih benar2 orang gila. Mau mancing kerusuhan rupanya dia. Coba aja kalo
dibaca Inetristi di Milano sono. Wah, bisa2 doski ditmebak mati. Jangan dulu
menghakimi sesuatu yang belum terbukti. Gue sih terima apa yang dia
katakana, asalkan itu terjadi setelah musim usai, dan INTER tidak
memengankan apa2. Yang ini? Musim belum aja dimulai, dia udah ngomong
macem2. Yang jelas, langkah pembelian INTER musim ini adalah yang terbaik
sepanjang saya menjadi Tifosi Inter. Mereka melepas V32 karena beliau udah
gak cocok lagi dengan skema permainan INTER. Lagian doski udah gak tajam
lagi. Tendang bola dari jarak 2 meter aja gak masuk. (nonton kan derby tahun
2002?)

Yah, kalo Nesta + Stam cedera, emang si Costacurta + Simic bias gantiin?
Atao si Canna dan Thuram cedera, emang si ferrara dan Montero masih muda?
Pikir dong...

Gua kalo ketemu sama orang ini, pasti gua jitak. Nih orang gak punya etika,
ya? Menjelek-jelekan sesuatu berdasarkan apa yang belum terjadi.

But, disatu sisi, gua juga menghargai lho pendapatnya. Ingat, demokrasi!.
HArus menghargai pendapat orang lain.

Bagaimanapun, mau ditransfer dari liga India kek, Liga Cina kek, Liga Afrika
kek, dari Persipura, keke, dari Persik, keke, dari Persija, kek, yang pasti
kalu dah jadi pemain INTER, akan gue dukung.

-interkuakanmenjadiscudettomusimini-

> http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=79116&progr=0

>

> Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of

> editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter
and

> Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths

> to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight
in

> Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that

> article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally

> with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article

> will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the

> season even begins.

> Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the

> transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their
season,

> and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to

> purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for

> talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have

> quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't
materialize

> to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo,

> Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus

> have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their

> squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere

> among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and
Serginho.

> Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson
and

> Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal
in

> midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the

> following acquisitions.

>

> Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct

> move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than

> Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get
injured,

> Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly,

> watching the partnership play together showed that they work better

> individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano
and

> Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most
of

> the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and

> because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

>

> In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a

> fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched

> Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have

> managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid

> season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many
chances.

> Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo

> from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the

> Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and
since

> it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he
will

> make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks

> speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the
Primiera

> still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders

> hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of
time

> on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to

> Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative

> like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.

>

> Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great

> purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in

> comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have

> improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and
Mihajlovic

> are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.

>

> Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces
come

> and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that

> cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.

>

> Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from

> Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for
Crespo.

> The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has
opted

> for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any
single

> defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both

> players play the same role.

>

> Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an

> inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper,

> all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and

> getting to know your team-mates.

>

> Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who

> coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was
now

> a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the
team

> for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come

> mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are

> completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.

> In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is
a

> good one.

>

> So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and

> Inter has 3.

>

> Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic,

> maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.

>

> Nicola Rotundo

>

>

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:28:33 +0700
From: "muswarah" <muswara@merapi.net>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

gw juga mo nambahin nih..
ini gw ambil dari kutipan tulisannya editor goal.com

I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

kalau dilihat dari kutipannya, kayaknya ini orang blon lihat golnya Martin ke Shaktar tadi pagi,
gw lihat di Lensa Olahraga ANTV, golnya martin hasil assist Adriano.. yang lebih muantap lagi assistnya itu
Adriano pakai backheel... !!

jadi goal.com itu...adalah antek-antek j*****t & melon, gak layak dibaca..!!

Hail INTER

moes

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Seorang psikopat menulis editorial di goal.com mengkritisi kebijakan belanja Inter di musim 2005/2006. Tampaknya si penulis gila itu seorang fanatik juprit atau mungkin orang gila yang sudah dicuci otaknya oleh ace melet sehingga mengidap Interphobia. Dalam artikel itu disebutkan bahwa : They refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who are beyond their prime.

http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=79116&progr=0

I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:51:47 -0000
From: "ryan_antonisz" <ryan_antonisz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

Goal.com jelas - jelas pendukung ac monyet karena situs itu sponsor
dari situs resmi ac monyet.

Jadi beritanya pasti gak ada yang lebih bagus dari si monyet. Gw
pingin liat apa berita yang ditulis kalo akhir musim nanti Inter
ngangkangin monyet jadi scudetto...

siapapun pemainnya, inter jagoannya

--- In inter-mania@yahoogroups.com, "muswarah" <muswara@m...> wrote:
> gw juga mo nambahin nih..
> ini gw ambil dari kutipan tulisannya editor goal.com
>
> I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but
never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the
time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and
because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and
Milan.
>
> kalau dilihat dari kutipannya, kayaknya ini orang blon lihat
golnya Martin ke Shaktar tadi pagi,
> gw lihat di Lensa Olahraga ANTV, golnya martin hasil assist
Adriano.. yang lebih muantap lagi assistnya itu
> Adriano pakai backheel... !!
>
> jadi goal.com itu...adalah antek-antek j*****t & melon, gak layak
dibaca..!!
>
> Hail INTER
>
> moes
>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:53 AM
> Subject: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 15.3/5.0] [inter-mania]
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> Seorang psikopat menulis editorial di goal.com mengkritisi
kebijakan belanja Inter di musim 2005/2006. Tampaknya si penulis
gila itu seorang fanatik juprit atau mungkin orang gila yang sudah
dicuci otaknya oleh ace melet sehingga mengidap Interphobia. Dalam
artikel itu disebutkan bahwa : They refuse to purchase quality
talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who
are beyond their prime.
>
>
> http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=79116&progr=0
>
> I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but
never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the
time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and
because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and
Milan.
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:58:39 +0700
From: "DAPHermanto" <phing@indocement.co.id>
Subject: Fw: Editorial Goal.com

Rekans, gw cuma mau merivisi aj nich....

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and Inter has 3 (menurut si penulis), yang benar starting 11 adalah Inter number 1 , Jupret 7 n melon 8 ..And finally season 2005/2006 Inter Scudetto , Jupret n Melon degradasi ...

Inter's midfield compared to Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.( Gak salah nich....jelas-jelas midfield Inter itu ud diakui yang paling ok di Seri A bahkan di dunia sekalipun ).

Jadi benar kata rekans yang lain, ud ga sabar nich nunggu season baru dimulai.
Target musim ini adalah treble winner : Scudetto, UCL n Coppa.
Target tambahan : Kalahkan Melon dan Jupret di semua ajang yang ada.

GREAT INTER


Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter and Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight in Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the season even begins.
Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their season, and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't materialize to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and Serginho. Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson and Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal in midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the following acquisitions.

Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get injured, Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly, watching the partnership play together showed that they work better individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many chances. Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and since it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he will make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the Primiera still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of time on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.

Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and Mihajlovic are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.

Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces come and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.

Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for Crespo. The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has opted for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any single defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both players play the same role.

Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper, all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and getting to know your team-mates.

Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was now a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the team for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.
In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is a good one.

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and Inter has 3.

Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic, maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.

Nicola Rotundo

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:29:14 +0800
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

Yang pasti penulis editorial tersebuat adalah Fans melon ma jupentut yang ketakutan ngelihat skuad+kekuatan inter skr...
Buktinya ada kok Inter kan habis jd juara Tim Cup yang notabene diikutin melon ma jupent*t

Great Inter
Ganyang melon
Sikat Jupent*t

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From: DAPHermanto
To: inter-mania@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:58 PM
Subject: Fw: [inter-mania] Editorial Goal.com

Rekans, gw cuma mau merivisi aj nich....

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and Inter has 3 (menurut si penulis), yang benar starting 11 adalah Inter number 1 , Jupret 7 n melon 8 ..And finally season 2005/2006 Inter Scudetto , Jupret n Melon degradasi ...

Inter's midfield compared to Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.( Gak salah nich....jelas-jelas midfield Inter itu ud diakui yang paling ok di Seri A bahkan di dunia sekalipun ).

Jadi benar kata rekans yang lain, ud ga sabar nich nunggu season baru dimulai.
Target musim ini adalah treble winner : Scudetto, UCL n Coppa.
Target tambahan : Kalahkan Melon dan Jupret di semua ajang yang ada.

GREAT INTER

Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter and Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight in Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the season even begins.
Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their season, and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't materialize to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and Serginho. Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson and Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal in midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the following acquisitions.

Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get injured, Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly, watching the partnership play together showed that they work better individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many chances. Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and since it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he will make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the Primiera still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of time on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.

Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and Mihajlovic are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.

Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces come and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.

Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for Crespo. The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has opted for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any single defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both players play the same role.

Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper, all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and getting to know your team-mates.

Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was now a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the team for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.
In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is a good one.

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and Inter has 3.

Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic, maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.

Nicola Rotundo

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:36:14 +0700
From: "Tinggogoy, Ronald: Mr." <ronald.tinggogoy@epcos.com>
Subject: RE: Editorial Goal.com

Gak usah banyak komentar aja kalo kita udah tahu kalo si penulis adalah
maniak Jupentut dan Melon. Ngapain juga tulisannya kesasar di milis INTER.

Woy, BAN aja nih si penulis ini. Namanya Nicola Rotundo, ya?

-interpastiscudetto-

Recent editorials on Goal.com have focused on the concentration of
editorials regarding the top three Serie A sides. Notably - Milan, Inter and
Juventus. Sadly to say, the gap has widened from the financially behemoths
to the lesser known clubs who although are competitive in the top flight in
Italy do not make the headlines in the transfer market. I have read that
article discussing how lower sides are discussed less and I agree totally
with that comment, many fans only know about the big boys and this article
will further fuel that thought as I see Inter as a lower club before the
season even begins.

Being a fan of Italian soccer, every season I hope Inter does well in the
transfer market, to pick up the precious talent needed to help their season,
and every season I am disappointed, as I am this one. They refuse to
purchase quality talent, but instead pay over priced amounts of money for
talent who are beyond their prime. Sadly, when they do purchase or have
quality players they allow them to leave for free, or they don't materialize
to the potential lived up to them. Examples include - Seedorf, Pirlo,
Cannavaro, Davids etc. Inter's immediate competition in Milan and Juventus
have done excellent summer transfers. Milan, further strengthened their
squad, and now have back ups capable of playing on first teams anywhere
among Europe, including - Vieri, Seedorf, Kaladze, Rui Costa, and Serginho.
Juventus' strength last year was a physically tough midfield of Emerson and
Blasi/Tacchinardi, and they have purchased Vieira, who captained Arsenal in
midfield. Finally, we come to Inter, who has reshaped their team with the
following acquisitions.

Starting in the forward guard, Inter have gotten rid of Vieri. A correct
move considering Adriano and Martins are better individual players than
Vieri, younger and stronger. However, if the aforementioned two get injured,
Cruz is not a star back up compared to Vieri or Del Piero. Secondly,
watching the partnership play together showed that they work better
individually. Many games, I saw individual moments of glory for Adriano and
Martins, but never a solid partnership. They get in each others way most of
the time, as they have the same skill set. Soccer is a team sport, and
because of this, Inter's forwards are second class to Juventus and Milan.

In midfield, Inter have managed to go through more midfield talent, than a
fat kid on ice cream. Gone is Emre, Van Der Meyde, Davids, and now benched
Zanetti and Veron (who is Inter's only consistent midfielder). Inter have
managed to completely turn around their midfield with Cambiasso coming mid
season, Stankovic who is very inconsistent, and misses far too many chances.
Inter have signed two new midfielders with Pizarro from Udinese, and Figo
from Madrid. Pizarro showed great form in helping Udinese reach the
Champions League, however, he is not the greatest midfield talent, and since
it is his first season at 'revolving Inter' it remains to be seen if he will
make the transition. Lastly, Figo. His best days are behind him, he lacks
speed, and his age shows. Although he was somewhat creative in the Primiera
still at his tender age, Serie A, is totally different, with defenders
hacking away at opponents legs. Far too often, I see him with acres of time
on the ball, which won't happen this season. Inter's midfield compared to
Juventus and Milan, is probably their weakest position, not being creative
like Milan's or defensive like Juve's.

Lastly, in defence. Inter's main problem last season. Samuel is a great
purchase, however the defensive partnership of Cordoba and Samuel, pale in
comparison to Nesta-Stam and Cannavaro-Thuram. Let's face it, they have
improved but if one of those players gets injured, Materazzi, and Mihajlovic
are far too old and bad to make up the quality in defence.

Moratti has again failed to bring the right players to Inter. New faces come
and go in the Inter line up, every year. When will management realize that
cohesiveness is the key to success! Compare Milan and Juventus to Inter.

Milan has the same starting 11 with the exception of Jankulovski from
Udinese, who is far more versatile than Pizzarro, and Gilardino for Crespo.
The midfield will be more defensive with Jankulovski, hence, Milan has opted
for a 3 man defence. All three defenseman, have more quality than any single
defensive player at Inter. Gilardino for Crespo is a simple swap, both
players play the same role.

Juventus has changed the least, with Viera, as a substitute for an
inconsistent Blasi. Note how Juventus' central defenders and goal keeper,
all played at Parma quite some time ago, does that show cohesiveness and
getting to know your team-mates.

Finally, Inter. In the forward line, they managed to lose Vieri, who
coincidentally set a world fee at one point from Lazio to Inter, and was now
a free transfer to Milan. In midfield - Stankovic who has been with the team
for a short period of time, is the senior spokesperson. Cambiasso has come
mid season, and is the heart of the midfield. Pizarro and Figo are
completely new, and it remains to be seen how they will adapt.
In defence, Samuel has come in to stop some goals, and his acquisition is a
good one.

So in total, new faces in the starting 11. Juve has 1, Milan has 2, and
Inter has 3.

Isn't that how they finished the season last year!!! Maybe it's ironic,
maybe not. Don't be surprised if they finish the standings the same way.

Nicola Rotundo

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:37:00 +0800
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

tambah : ayo qt rame-rame kasih coment di editorial tolol tsb, tunujkan interisti punya kekuatan...

Great Inter

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:41:40 +0800
From: "Aris Setyawan" <aris@dsuc.co.id>
Subject: Re: Editorial Goal.com

ini nih fans jupentut yang AGAK waras :

diambil dr comment editorial goal.com

George - Boston, USA
8/10/2005 8:35:18 PM
I am a Juventus fan, but I have to say you are not convincing. Your arguments lack any appropriate backing and your passion seems to be talking more than your common sense.

I hope Inter don't succeed this season, but I don't think they are in the situation you describe - they have signed some very good players, and despite their high player turnaround, they have begun to build a more solid backbone to their team: Toldo, Cordoba, Cambiasso, Adriano and Martins. It all depends on how well their new players adapt.

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