Friday, July 15, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1547

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Vieira agrees to join Juventus
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
2. Guimarães swoop for Saganowski
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
3. Ceulemans plots new Brugge era
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
4. CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
5. Navas treated for panic attacks
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
6. Gold Cup 2005
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
7. Baiano could face record 540 day ban
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
8. European Champions League 2005-06
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
9. LA v. Chivas USA: Wanna bet?
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
10. Gold Cup: 2 Cubans suspected of defection
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
11. Re: Protesting United fans urge CL boycott
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
12. Re: Gerrard wants out of Liverpool!
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
13. Re: CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
14. Re: European Champions League 2005-06
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
15. Re: CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:26:25 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Vieira agrees to join Juventus

Italian champions Juventus appear to have pulled off the biggest
transfer of the summer so far by signing Arsenal captain Patrick
Vieira.

End of an era
The two clubs have agreed a deal totalling €20m for the 29-year-old
French international midfielder, who is currently finalising personal
terms with Juventus. Vieira's move away from Arsenal ends a nine-year
association with the club he joined for €5.7m in 1996 after spells
with AC Milan and AS Cannes.

Glorious spell
Vieira played a major part in transforming Arsenal's fortunes under
manager Arsène Wenger, helping the Londoners to Premiership and FA
Cup doubles in 1998 and 2002, as well as a further league title in
2004 and FA Cup successes in 2003 and 2005. In all, he made 279
Premiership appearances.

'Meet a new challenge'
"I made the decision to leave because I felt it was time to have a
new challenge," Vieira said. "But that does not mean I was unhappy or
that I was having a problem at Arsenal. It was just that I had the
feeling I needed to grow and meet a new challenge, and I feel
Juventus was the best challenge for me."

Wenger tribute
Wenger added: "Patrick was a great player for us, one of the greatest
in the club's history and I feel I had a special relationship with
him because I made him come here. His impact, not only at Arsenal but
in English football overall, was just tremendous."

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Damn, I didn't see this one coming :(
So Juventus managed what Real failed for years!

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:28:52 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Guimarães swoop for Saganowski

Portuguese UEFA Cup hopefuls Vitória SC have signed Polish
international striker Marek Saganowski from Legia Warszawa for an
undisclosed sum.

Scoring record
Despite finishing fifth last season, the Guimaraes-based side scored
just 38 goals in 34 games. They will hope that Saganowski, who struck
14 goals in the Polish Ekstraklasa last term and has registered twice
in 14 appearances for his country, can add an attacking edge to the
team's strong defensive play.

Farewell goal
The 26-year-old was on target again on Wednesday, scoring in Legia's
pre-season friendly against German outfit Bayer 04 Leverkusen in what
was his final match for the club. He now has two months to settle in
his new surroundings before Guimarães enter the UEFA Cup first round.

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I have all faith in Saganowski, I don't think he will stay long at
Guimaraes.

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:35:59 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ceulemans plots new Brugge era

For Belgian champions Club Brugge KV it has been a summer of change.

Sollied crew
As if coach Trond Sollied's departure for Greek side Olympiacos CFP
was not enough upheaval, they also had to deal with captain Timmy
Simons disembarking the good ship Brugge for Dutch champions PSV
Eindhoven.

Successful era
The exit of their Norwegian coach will probably hit the club the
hardest. Sollied, who masterminded one of the most successful eras in
the team's history, joined Brugge in the summer of 2000 from KAA
Gent. In his five years at the club the 46-year-old stamped his
unique brand of football on Belgian football, encouraging his side to
adopt a physical approach with a tremendous team mentality.

Belgian legend
It paid off too as Brugge won the championship in 2002/03 and 2004/05
along with the Belgium Cup in 2002 and 2004. But, with Sollied moving
on, Brugge knew they too must move on swiftly – and they did exactly
that, appointing Belgium legend Jan Ceulemans as their new coach.

Transitional phase
"We were prepared for it to happen one day," told technical director
Marc Degryse. "We knew it would be this season or next. The first
training day of the season was the symbolic start of a new era. I
think we solved this in a quick and efficient way and, who knows,
maybe the change will be for the good of the club."

Great experience
What Ceulemans brings to Brugge is plenty of experience. He still
holds the Belgian record for international caps (96). He is also very
familiar with the surroundings having played for the club between
1978 and 1992, captaining the side to three league titles and two cup
wins. He was also named Belgium Player of the year in 1981, 1985 and
1986 – the latter after helping his country to fourth place at the
1986 World Cup in Mexico.

First goal
Ceuleman, now 48, arrives from fellow Belgian side KVC Westerlo with
whom he won the Belgium Cup in 2001 and he will be ably assisted by
another Brugge and Belgium legend Franky Van der Elst. The principal
goal for Ceulemans is reaching the Champions League group stage.

'New experience'
"It will be a totally new experience for me," said Ceulemans. "From
other people I heard it is something really special. I have
experienced the magic of European Cup evenings in the past but the
Champions League seems to be even more special. If we reach the group
stage it will also benefit us both financially and domestically in
the long term."

New captain
With Simons departed, one of the first decisions Ceulemans had to
make was to appoint a new captain and that role went to former
skipper Gert Verheyen – and the Belgian international is delighted
with his new responsibility. "Under Sollied I would never have been
captain again," he said. "But now I am taking this job with a lot of
pleasure and will relish the responsibility."

Fresh faces
With a new coach and captain in place, the club set about their final
task of bringing in some new blood. In came midfielders Ivan Leko,
Sven Vermant and Grégory Dufer, with defender Joos Valgaeren the
final piece of the jigsaw.

Sollied legacy
"We just want the season to start now," said Ceulemans. With so much
experience on both the playing and coaching front, it is hard to back
against Ceulemans continuing where Sollied left off.

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Yep, we can't wait for the new season to start!!
For the 5th year in a row, we should break our season tickets record
and have around 25,000.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:41:11 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster

CD Guadalajara announced their roster for Saturday's match up with
Real Madrid at Soldier Field in Chicago, IL.

The Goats will take on the Rossoneri after an MLS game between the
Chicago Fire and Columbus Crew. Guadalajara's roster features Oswaldo
Sanchez, Ramon Morales and Adolfo Bautista, all stars for the Mexican
National Team.

CHIVAS GUADALAJARA ROSTER
GOALKEEPERS: Oswaldo Sanchez, Alfredo Talavera
DEFENDERS: Hector Reynoso, Johnnie Garcia, Christian Ramirez, Jonny
Magallon
MIDFIELDERS: Ramon Morales, Rafael Medina, Juan Pablo Alfaro, Manuel
Sol, Christian Armas, Max Perez
FORWARDS: Francisco Palencia, Adolfo Bautista, Alejandro Vela, Edwin
Borboa, Marco Parra, Renato Rivera

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Sorry Manuel, but I don't know the players as I never saw Guadalajara
play...
Palencia sounds like a famous name to me, but it might be another
one :)

But I am doing progress, tonight I will watch my first live and full
Copa Libertadores final. It's at 2.30 AM here :p

Go Sao Paulo!!

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:45:20 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Navas treated for panic attacks

Sevilla star Jesus Navas will undergo treatment for such attacks,
suffered when taking trips away from his native city.

The hugely talented Navas does have a history of problems in this
area, and the club say they will do all they can to help him overcome
it in the coming season.

"It is expected that the player will make a progressive return to
team training over the course of the next few months, but he will be
given psychological support throughout the course of the 2005-06
season," said a club statement. "Fortunately there are a range of
therapies that can be used to ensure we resolve the problem
successfully."

The Spanish U21 player refused to travel to Holland for the World
Youth Championships in June. He may even miss the beginning of
Sevilla's campaign, but the club remain calm. "These sorts of
problems occur frequently in the population at large and can, of
course, also affect sportsmen."

There had been some interest from foreign suitors, including a now-
richer Arsenal, but the circumstances will surely nullify the already
remote chance of a move for the forseeable future.

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A move to Betis is still possible :p
He has a clause in his contract... 'Only plays home games' ;)

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:59:44 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Gold Cup 2005

Guatemala 1-1 South Africa
South Africa came from behind to earn their second straight draw with
Guatemala to finish second in Group C. For Guatemala the result is an
improvement over two previous losses, but squandering the lead
punctuates a highly disappointing tournament.
The Catrachos went ahead in the 37th minute when a nice chip from
Carlos Ruiz picked out Gonzalo Romero just inside the area for the
game's first goal.
But the Bafana Bafana equalized on the death of halftime. Siyabanga
Nomvete, who has been a real bright spot for the Africans in this
tournament, picked out the run of Solace Nkosi, who beat Guatemala
keeper Paulo Cesar Motta from just outside the penalty area.

Mexico 1-0 Jamaica
They're baaaack. The opening round hiccup against South Africa was
merely that, a hiccup. The Tricolor saw off Jamaica to claim first in
Group C, avoiding a quarterfinal match against the United States, a
task that now goes to the Reggae Boyz. With the win, Mexico have
reasserted themselves as favorites to win their second straight Gold
Cup. The match was actually fairly even, but only the men in green
were able to find the back of the net. The goal came early through
Alberto Medina in the 19th minute. It was a fabulous strike, the type
suited for a match winner: nice pass, perfect and powerful execution.
But to the Boyz credit they battled back and threw all their kitchen
sinks at the Mexican goal, coming close to tying through Jermaine Hue
and Andy Williams before the break. Mexico were able to suck some of
the life out of the match in the second half, and things got more
than chippy on a few occasions culminating with Omar Daley's ejection
with twenty minutes left to play.
Reduced to ten men Jamaica managed one more excellent chance to tie
in the waning moments, but goalkeeper Moises Munoz was on hand to
preserve the shutout and victory.
Mexico move on to face Colombia in the quarterfinals on Sunday,
whereas Jamaica will meet the United States on Saturday.

Caribbean Zone 2004/05: Jamaica, Cuba, Trinidad/Tobago
Central American Zone 2003: Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama
Qualified automatically: Canada, Mexico, USA, South Africa (guests),
Colombia (guests)

Group A (Miami)
06-07 Colombia 0-1 Panama
06-07 Honduras 1-1 Trinidad/Tobago
09-07 Panama 2-2 Trinidad/Tobago
09-07 Honduras 2-1 Colombia
11-07 Colombia 2-0 Trinidad/Tobago
11-07 Honduras 1-0 Panama

1.HONDURAS....... 3 2 1 0 4-2 7
2.PANAMA......... 3 1 1 1 3-3 4
3.COLOMBIA....... 3 1 0 2 3-3 3
4.Trinidad/Tobago 3 0 2 1 3-5 2

Group B (Seattle (Jul 7 and 9), Boston (Jul 12))
07-07 Canada 0-1 Costa Rica
07-07 Cuba 1-4 USA
09-07 Cuba 1-3 Costa Rica
09-07 USA 2-0 Canada
12-07 USA 0-0 Costa Rica
12-07 Canada 2-1 Cuba

1.USA....... 3 2 1 0 6-1 7
2.COSTA RICA 3 2 1 0 4-1 7
3.Canada.... 3 1 0 2 2-4 3
4.Cuba...... 3 0 0 3 3-9 0

Group C (Carson (Jul 8), Los Angeles (Jul 10), Houston (Jul 13))
08-07 South Africa 2-1 Mexico
08-07 Guatemala 3-4 Jamaica
10-07 Mexico 4-0 Guatemala
10-07 South Africa 3-3 Jamaica
13-07 South Africa 1-1 Guatemala
13-07 Mexico 1-0 Jamaica

1.MEXICO...... 3 2 0 1 6-2 6
2.SOUTH AFRICA 3 1 2 0 6-5 5
3.JAMAICA..... 3 1 1 1 7-7 4
4.Guatemala... 3 0 1 2 4-9 1

Quarterfinals (Boston (Jul 16), Houston (Jul 17))
16-07 Honduras - Costa Rica
16-07 USA - Jamaica
17-07 Mexico - Colombia
17-07 South Africa - Panama

Semifinals (East Rutherford)
21-07 between winners Jul 16
21-07 between winners Jul 17

Final (East Rutherford)
24-07

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:03:13 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Baiano could face record 540 day ban

Brazilian defender Baiano who played his first match back for
Palmeiras after a stint at Boca Juniors spoke to the press about the
reason why he reacted wildly against Argentine superstar Carlos Tevez
in the recent Paulista derby.

In the final minutes of the derby that Corinthians won 3-1 Baiano
deliberately kicked the ball straight at Tevez and this caused a
massive brawl between the two sides.

Baiano was sent off and is likely to be banned for 540 days by the
Brazilian Soccer Tribuneral.

Baiano explains that Carlos Tevez provoked him throughout the match
and this made him react in this manner:

"Tevez never spat on me or said any racist remarks, but he called me
a chicken in reference to my stay at Boca.

"He insisted throughout the entire match that I was not manly enough
to tell the Argentines the reason why I left the club, but was
willing to tell the Brazilian press on my return".

Baiano explained to the Brazilian press the reasons for terminating
his contract with the Argentine giants that mainly focused on racism.

He stated that the Boca players, especially Argentine national team
goalkeeper Roberto Abbondanzieri and striker Guillermo Barros
Schelotto did not accept him because his skin colour and the fact
that Argentines and Brazilians do not mix.

Although his stay at Boca finished in controversy Baiano was one of
Boca's only standout players throughout the season.

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Now that's a ban!!

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:11:17 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: European Champions League 2005-06

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard scored a hat-trick as the European
champions began the defence of their title with a 3-0 win over Total
Network Solutions.
The England midfielder, at the centre of controversy over contract
negotiations for most of last week, put the Reds ahead after eight
minutes.
And with the Premiership side dominating the Welsh Premier champions,
Gerrard broke through and lobbed home the second before completing
his treble with an 89th minute strike from 20 yards out.
A period of silence was impeccably observed in memory of the victims
of the London bombings before kick-off at Anfield.
TNS put up a brave performance and defended stoutly, but Liverpool
had too much class for them.

In other first round qualifying Champions League ties, the all-
Ireland clash between Glentoran and Shelbourne in Belfast saw the
Republic of Ireland side Shelbourne win 2-1 against their Northern
Irish hosts. Two goals from Byrne– one penalty – put Shelbourne two
up before ward got a late consolation for Glentoran.

A goal by Nikola Maric was enough to give the visiting Bosnia-
Herzegovina champions NK Zrinjski a 1-0 first leg lead over F91
Dudelange in Luxembourg.

The Finnish champions FC Haka defeated Armenian visitors FC Pyunik 1-
0 at Valkeakoski thanks to a strike by Juha Pasoja. Haka are thus on
course for a second round clash with Norwegia n runners-up Vålerenga.

There was a six-goal thriller in the Faeroe Islands as HB Thorshavn
went down 2-4 at home to Kaunas from Lithuania. Velicka scored twice
for Kaunas within the first 25 minutes. Then Thorsteinsson halved the
deficit, only for Klimek to give the visitors a 3-1 interval lead.
Jespersen pulled another goal back for Thorshavn two minutes into the
second half, before Zelmikas rounded off the scoring a minute later.

Two second-half goals strikes saw Slovenian champions NK Gorica
establish a 2-0 lead over SK Tirana. Nebojša Kovacevic opened the
scoring after half-time, with Valter Birsa adding the second ahead of
next week's return in Albania.

Levadia Tallinn 1-0 Dinamo Tbilisi
Neftchi 2-0 Hafnarfjördur
Dinamo Minsk 1-1 Anorthosis
Kairat Almaty 2-0 Artmedia
Rabotnicki 6-0 Skonto
Sliema 1-4 Sheriff
Haka 1-0 Pyunik
HB 2-4 Kaunas
Glentoran 1-2 Shelbourne
Dudelange 0-1 Zrinjski
Liverpool 3-0 TNS
Gorica 2-0 Tirana

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:14:52 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: LA v. Chivas USA: Wanna bet?

"El Presidente de Chivas USA", Antonio Cue, must have found some
added confidence after his squad's 5-1 drubbing of
fellow "expanders," Real Salt Lake last weekend. With the third Honda
Super Clasico on tap this weekend at the Home Depot Center, Cue and
Galaxy President Doug Hamilton have agreed on a two-part bet.

The terms of the bet are as follows:
1 – The President of the losing team will invite 50 underprivileged
children to the next home match of the winning team, but each of them
a meal, and accompany them during the match.
2 – The President of the losing team will also serve lunch to the
winning president at the Home Depot Center's Stadium Club restaurant
on a date to be determined later.

Not exactly our idea of daring, but with this fixture's lopsided
history—LA Galaxy 5, Chivas USA 1, on aggregate—El Presidente is
smart to play it safe. However, this time, Los Angeles will be
missing several key players through injury and international duty,
including Landon Donovan.

With the Gals' ongoing struggles, Hamilton may actually have to pay
up on this one. If so, maybe we can get another "loser has to dye his
hair the opposing teams colors" bet for the decisive October 8th
match.

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Yep, it's now or never for Chivas!

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:25:39 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Gold Cup: 2 Cubans suspected of defection

Two Cuban players are suspected of defecting, which also happend at the
2002 Gold Cup.

Starting goalkeeper Odelin Molina and striker Maikel Galindo were not
present with the rest of the Cuban players for Tuesday night's match
against Canada, which the Cubanos lost.

During the 2002 Gold Cup held in the United States Cuban internationals
Rey Angel Martinez and Alberto Delgado defected in February of that
year in Los Angeles. Both players went on to play briefly for the
Colorad Rapids last year in MLS.

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Now, that's the spirit :)

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:28:15 -0000
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Protesting United fans urge CL boycott

Well, it woudl be great if they didn't, no?

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> will true fans turn up? probably not. will "fans" turn up? of
course
> they will those plastic fans!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > This would be a good poll: Will United Fans turn up to the game?
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > Fans are being urged to boycott Manchester United's Champions
> > League
> > > qualifying tie in an attempt to help force out the club's new
> > owner,
> > > Malcolm Glazer.
> > >
> > > United are due to play in the third round next month and will
be
> > > looking to secure their place in the Champions League group
stage.
> > >
> > > However, the Independent Manchester United Supporters'
Association
> > do
> > > not want fans to turn up and watch.
> > >
> > > "This boycott is the chance for them to show Glazer they do
not
> > want
> > > him or his debts," said IMUSA spokesman Mark Longden.
> > >
> > > "It's simple - do not buy a ticket for this match. This is our
> > chance
> > > to demonstrate to Glazer that supporters do have a voice and
are
> > > prepared to use it," explained Longden.
> > >
> > > "He will keep targeting us to pay off his debts if he thinks
we
> > are
> > > weak and willing. We are neither.
> > >
> > > "We react with horror at his plans for ticket prices, as more
and
> > > more decent, loyal, United fans will be priced out of going to
the
> > > club they love and support.
> > >
> > > "We will not allow that to happen."
> > >
> > > United won't know until the draw on 29 July who they must
play,
> > and
> > > whether they will be at home on either 10 or 24 August.
> > >
> > > *********************************
> > >
> > > The man you love to hate :)

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:31:02 -0000
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Gerrard wants out of Liverpool!

I know that you know, I was just further extending the nobility
title of "shitty"...LOL

Interesting, French last names...Didn't Wales have a few good
players? William, Harry and Charles...

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
<n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> yeah i know its 3 other countries....couple is just figure of
speech
> or something like that for me. the other countries haven't produced
> anything much in years. most notable one of today is giggs and hes
> probably only non english guy to make the line up. they have
produced
> some in the past like a few scots in the liverpool team of 70's and
> 80's and george best from northern ireland.....the best the smaller
> islands have produced is matt le tissier and graeme le saux.
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > ooops...Actually, it's three shitty countries...Well, Wales and
> > Northern Iseland have produced some really good players, no? do
the
> > Iselands (Man, Guersney, etc.) count?
> >
> > So, what would be an ideal Great Britain lineup?
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > because britain is really just england and a couple of shitty
> > > countries made into it. without england, then britain is fuck
all.
> > > plus its not our fault we produce better players
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > What's the point in having a team called 'Great Britain' if
11
> > > > Englishmen play in it? :)
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > And what does the IOC say?
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be immensily silly if Britain would not have a
> > Football
> > > > > team in the Olympic Games.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > nope. fifa says as we dont play as a british football
team,
> > we
> > > > cant
> > > > > > enter the olympics as one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why? They don't allow it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > probably try and get it for a once off thing. cant
see
> > why we
> > > > > cant.
> > > > > > > > its fifa that are wankers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any news as how will team Great Britain will be
formed?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick
Morris"
> > > > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > spurs might actually get an olympic footie game
> > staged
> > > > > there.
> > > > > > > heres
> > > > > > > > > > hoping!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nick's Wet Dream:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere in Madrid...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Butragueño: Yes Florentino, I think that we
should
> > buy
> > > > > > > Gerrard
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > lend it to Spurs for 5 years.
> > > > > > > > > > > Florentino: I think taht you are right, Spurs
> > deserves
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > and we
> > > > > > > > > > > have enough players and money. Let's do it!
> > > > > > > > > > > Buitre: Yep, maybe they could get us in
exchange
> > some
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > seats
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > the 2012 Olympics!
> > > > > > > > > > > Floren: YEAH! Good idea!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > CONGRATS FOR THE OLYMPICS!!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In your dreams :p
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick
> > > > Morris"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > think he should come to spurs. we would do
> > well
> > > > with
> > > > > him
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steven Gerrard has asked to leave
Champions
> > > > League
> > > > > > > winners
> > > > > > > > > > > > Liveprool,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > informed the red outfit this afternoon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'The club has made it crystal clear we
want
> > to
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anfield,' read the club's statement.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Sadly, he has told us this afternoon
that
> > he
> > > > will
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > accept
> > > > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > offer of an improved and extended
contract
> > > > because
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > wants to
> > > > > > > > > > > > leave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Liverpool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'We very much regret the decision that
has
> > been
> > > > > > > taken," it
> > > > > > > > > > > > concluded.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A £32million offer on behalf of Chelsea
for
> > the
> > > > > > > Liverpool
> > > > > > > > > > > skipper
> > > > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > apparently rejected by the Red
management
> > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reports from Spain indicate Liga giants
Real
> > > > > Madrid
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > offer £40 mil for the England star's
> > services.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bidding is now open!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***********************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there isn't a better time for him
to
> > move.
> > > > > > > Liverpool
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > hardly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do better than this year.

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:36:08 -0000
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster

Oswaldo Sánchez is the idol. He was named best goal keeper in the
Confederations Cup. Bautista is quite a show. Ramón Morales is a
fixture of the National Team.

Palencia is the one you know. I am interested to see Christian
Armas, Max Pérez and Erwin Borboa. Three very young players who are
said to be the next jewels.

we still have 4 players in the Gold Cup playing for Mexico. Carlos
Salcido, Francisco Rodríguez, Omar Bravo and Alberto Medina.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> CD Guadalajara announced their roster for Saturday's match up with
> Real Madrid at Soldier Field in Chicago, IL.
>
> The Goats will take on the Rossoneri after an MLS game between the
> Chicago Fire and Columbus Crew. Guadalajara's roster features
Oswaldo
> Sanchez, Ramon Morales and Adolfo Bautista, all stars for the
Mexican
> National Team.
>
> CHIVAS GUADALAJARA ROSTER
> GOALKEEPERS: Oswaldo Sanchez, Alfredo Talavera
> DEFENDERS: Hector Reynoso, Johnnie Garcia, Christian Ramirez,
Jonny
> Magallon
> MIDFIELDERS: Ramon Morales, Rafael Medina, Juan Pablo Alfaro,
Manuel
> Sol, Christian Armas, Max Perez
> FORWARDS: Francisco Palencia, Adolfo Bautista, Alejandro Vela,
Edwin
> Borboa, Marco Parra, Renato Rivera
>
> ***************************
>
> Sorry Manuel, but I don't know the players as I never saw
Guadalajara
> play...
> Palencia sounds like a famous name to me, but it might be another
> one :)
>
> But I am doing progress, tonight I will watch my first live and
full
> Copa Libertadores final. It's at 2.30 AM here :p
>
> Go Sao Paulo!!

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:39:17 -0000
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: European Champions League 2005-06

Total Network solutions??? LOOOOOOOOOOL

-- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard scored a hat-trick as the
European
> champions began the defence of their title with a 3-0 win over
Total
> Network Solutions.
> The England midfielder, at the centre of controversy over contract
> negotiations for most of last week, put the Reds ahead after eight
> minutes.
> And with the Premiership side dominating the Welsh Premier
champions,
> Gerrard broke through and lobbed home the second before completing
> his treble with an 89th minute strike from 20 yards out.
> A period of silence was impeccably observed in memory of the
victims
> of the London bombings before kick-off at Anfield.
> TNS put up a brave performance and defended stoutly, but Liverpool
> had too much class for them.
>
> In other first round qualifying Champions League ties, the all-
> Ireland clash between Glentoran and Shelbourne in Belfast saw the
> Republic of Ireland side Shelbourne win 2-1 against their Northern
> Irish hosts. Two goals from Byrne– one penalty – put Shelbourne
two
> up before ward got a late consolation for Glentoran.
>
> A goal by Nikola Maric was enough to give the visiting Bosnia-
> Herzegovina champions NK Zrinjski a 1-0 first leg lead over F91
> Dudelange in Luxembourg.
>
> The Finnish champions FC Haka defeated Armenian visitors FC Pyunik
1-
> 0 at Valkeakoski thanks to a strike by Juha Pasoja. Haka are thus
on
> course for a second round clash with Norwegia n runners-up
Vålerenga.
>
> There was a six-goal thriller in the Faeroe Islands as HB
Thorshavn
> went down 2-4 at home to Kaunas from Lithuania. Velicka scored
twice
> for Kaunas within the first 25 minutes. Then Thorsteinsson halved
the
> deficit, only for Klimek to give the visitors a 3-1 interval lead.
> Jespersen pulled another goal back for Thorshavn two minutes into
the
> second half, before Zelmikas rounded off the scoring a minute
later.
>
> Two second-half goals strikes saw Slovenian champions NK Gorica
> establish a 2-0 lead over SK Tirana. Nebojša Kovacevic opened the
> scoring after half-time, with Valter Birsa adding the second ahead
of
> next week's return in Albania.
>
>
> Levadia Tallinn 1-0 Dinamo Tbilisi
> Neftchi 2-0 Hafnarfjördur
> Dinamo Minsk 1-1 Anorthosis
> Kairat Almaty 2-0 Artmedia
> Rabotnicki 6-0 Skonto
> Sliema 1-4 Sheriff
> Haka 1-0 Pyunik
> HB 2-4 Kaunas
> Glentoran 1-2 Shelbourne
> Dudelange 0-1 Zrinjski
> Liverpool 3-0 TNS
> Gorica 2-0 Tirana

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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:53:15 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: CD Guadalajara announces 18-man roster

The 2 most famous Mexicans I know are Hugo Sanchez and Cuauhtemoc
Blanco. The guy who kept the ball between his feet and jumped between
two Belgians at the WC.
I still wonder if that's allowed as the ball is blocked :)

A few weeks ago, I saw a young Brazilian within the Selecao (young
Brazil) who ran like 30-40 meters with the ball on his head. But this
is of course allowed as the ball is not blocked on his head.
Though, try to stop him...

The defenders always had to push him :)
Often the referee blew fault in his advantage.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> Oswaldo Sánchez is the idol. He was named best goal keeper in the
> Confederations Cup. Bautista is quite a show. Ramón Morales is a
> fixture of the National Team.
>
> Palencia is the one you know. I am interested to see Christian
> Armas, Max Pérez and Erwin Borboa. Three very young players who are
> said to be the next jewels.
>
> we still have 4 players in the Gold Cup playing for Mexico. Carlos
> Salcido, Francisco Rodríguez, Omar Bravo and Alberto Medina.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > CD Guadalajara announced their roster for Saturday's match up
with
> > Real Madrid at Soldier Field in Chicago, IL.
> >
> > The Goats will take on the Rossoneri after an MLS game between
the
> > Chicago Fire and Columbus Crew. Guadalajara's roster features
> Oswaldo
> > Sanchez, Ramon Morales and Adolfo Bautista, all stars for the
> Mexican
> > National Team.
> >
> > CHIVAS GUADALAJARA ROSTER
> > GOALKEEPERS: Oswaldo Sanchez, Alfredo Talavera
> > DEFENDERS: Hector Reynoso, Johnnie Garcia, Christian Ramirez,
> Jonny
> > Magallon
> > MIDFIELDERS: Ramon Morales, Rafael Medina, Juan Pablo Alfaro,
> Manuel
> > Sol, Christian Armas, Max Perez
> > FORWARDS: Francisco Palencia, Adolfo Bautista, Alejandro Vela,
> Edwin
> > Borboa, Marco Parra, Renato Rivera
> >
> > ***************************
> >
> > Sorry Manuel, but I don't know the players as I never saw
> Guadalajara
> > play...
> > Palencia sounds like a famous name to me, but it might be another
> > one :)
> >
> > But I am doing progress, tonight I will watch my first live and
> full
> > Copa Libertadores final. It's at 2.30 AM here :p
> >
> > Go Sao Paulo!!

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