Thursday, July 14, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1546

There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Real Madrid announces roster
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
2. Re: Strongest Leagues in the World (IFFHS)
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
3. Re: Protesting United fans urge CL boycott
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
4. Re: Gerrard wants out of Liverpool!
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:47:11 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Real Madrid announces roster

Who cares about the result or way of playing, it's just for the show.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> I am totally puzzled about this game. We have 4 players with the
> national team in the Gold Cup and the rest came back from
> vacation...TODAY! Seems like a good example of bad planning.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > Real Madrid have announced their lineup as they prepare to meet
> Club
> > Deportivo Guadalajara this Saturday, July 16, in Chicago.
> >
> > The Spanish superclub begins their World Tour, which consists of
> only
> > the U.S. and East Asia, this weekend in the Windy City. The match
> > will be the second of a double header, starting with the Chicago
> Fire
> > hosting the Columbus Crew in an MLS showdown.
> >
> > Real will have almost their full, star-studded roster, except for
> > defenders Jonathan Woodgate and Walter Samuel. David Beckham,
> perhaps
> > the most recognizable soccer name in America, will make his
second
> > appearance in the States after playing in an England friendly at
> the
> > Meadowlands earlier this summer. Portugal midfielder Luis Figo
has
> > been included on the roster, even though rumors persist about a
> > forthcoming move to Liverpool.
> >
> > Real Madrid will travel to Los Angeles after facing the Mexican
> > powerhouse to take on the Galaxy of MLS. Their tour will finish
> with
> > stops in China, Japan, and Thailand.
> >
> >
> > REAL MADRID WORLD TOUR 2005 ROSTER
> > GOALKEEPERS: Iker Casillas, Diego López, Carlos Sánchez.
> > DEFENDERS: Michel Salgado, Alvaro Mejía, Ivan Helguera, Carlos
> Pavón,
> > Carlos Diogo, Roberto Carlos, Raúl Bravo, Ruben De la Red.
> > MIDFIELDERS: Pablo García, David Beckham, Zinedine Zidane, Jose
> Maria
> > Gutierrez ("Guti"), Luis Figo, Thomas Gravesen, Jose Manuel
> Jurado,
> > Alvaro Arbeloa.
> > FORWARDS: Raúl, Ronaldo, Michael Owen, Juanfran, Roberto Soldado.
> > Head Coach: Vanderlei Luxemburgo
> >
> > ***************************************
> >
> > Go Chivas!! :D

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:03:53 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Strongest Leagues in the World (IFFHS)

17th worldwide. That seems about right, I guess...

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> The German Bundesliga on the turning point !
>
> Each year, at the beginning of July, there is an opportunity to
> analyse national and international results to detect new trends in
> the strength of various national leagues. The latest trends are as
> following:
>
> 1st. The Italian Serie A, which in the nineties was almost
> permanently No.1 in the world, is on the way to regaining its old
> position and will compete in 2005 with the English Premier League
> for the title of the strongest League of the World.
>
> 2nd. The Spanish Primera División suffered from the disastrous
> results of its top clubs (Real Madrid, "Barça", Valencia, La
Coruña)
> in the "Copa de España" and in the international competitions –
> dropping back to 3rd place. A successful defence of the title does
> not look likely.
>
> 3rd. While the top leagues from Argentina and Brazil as well as
> those from Italy, England, Spain and France will remain in the "Top
> 7" of the world, the trend will mean that the German Bundesliga
will
> no longer feature in the "Top 7" before long. In future the German
> Bundesliga will be far better marketed through the German media
than
> for some time.
>
> 4th. The Mexican clubs have again confirmed through the "Copa
> Libertadores" that its Primera División, is the third strongest in
> Latin-America together with that from Colombia.
>
> 5th. The improvement of the Middle East leagues (UAE, Saudi Arabia,
> Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain) has been impressive. It should be noted
that
> in these countries the national competitions will played above all
> in the first half of the calendar year and they will not be able to
> retain their current very good positions globally. For the
> Scandinavian countries, USA and some others it is reversed because
> there the main emphasis of the competitions is in the second half
of
> the calendar year.
>
> 6th. The national leagues of Russia, Morocco, Nigeria, Republic of
> Korea, Ghana, Estonia, Egypt, China, Ivory Coast, Iran, Algeria,
> Zimbabwe and Angola all showed impressive improvement, while the
> leagues from Peru, Ecuador, Czech Republic, Bolivia, Poland,
> Bulgaria, Israel, Serbia & Montenegro, Senegal, Romania, Venezuela,
> Hungary, Denmark and Uzbekistan fell back.
>
> The following are the "Top 80":
> points
> 1. Italia 594,0 41. Algérie 182,0
> 2. England 587,0 42. Zimbabwe 177,0
> 3. España 482,0 43. Cameroun 174,0
> 4. Argentina 478,0 44. Azerbaijan 171,0
> 5. France 472,0 45. Jordan 168,0
> 6. Brasil 453,0 46. Angola 167,0
> 7. Nederland 449,5 Macedonia 167,0
> 8. México 446,0 48. Bolivia 164,0
> 9. Colombia 391,5 Polska 164,0
> 10. Deutschland 382,0 50. Armenia 162,0
> 11. Portugal 373,0 51. Albania 161,0
> 12. Greece 336,0 52. Bulgaria 160,5
> 13. Russia 322,0 53. India 160,0
> 14. Chile 310,5 54. Israel 159,5
> 15. Türkiye 309,0 55. Vietnam 159,0
> 16. UAE 306,5 56. Georgia 158,0
> 17. Belgique 297,0 57. Srbija i Crna Gora 157,0
> 18. Scotland 295,5 58. Sénégal 154,0
> 19. Uruguay 259,5 59. România 145,0
> 20. South Africa 257,5 60. Venezuela 143,0
> 21. Paraguay 253,5 61. Malaysia 140,0
> 22. Maroc 251,0 62. Magyarország 139,0
> Saudi Arabia 251,0 63. Danmark 138,0
> 24. Nigeria 236,0 Zambia 138,0
> 25. Qatar 235,5 65. Schweiz 137,0
> 26. Ukraina 231,5 Slovensko 137,0
> 27. Kuwait 227,0 67. Japan 134,0
> 28. Österreich 218,0 68. Costa Rica 132,0
> 29. Korea (S) 217,0 69. Guatemala 131,0
> 30. Perú 211,5 Panamá 131,0
> 31. Bahrain 211,0 71. Jamaica 123,5
> Ghana 211,0 Syria 123,5
> 33. Ecuador 205,0 73. El Salvador 119,0
> Eesti 205,0 Thailand 119,0
> 35. Egypt 203,5 75. Honduras 118,0
> 36. China 196,0 76. Hrvatska 117,0
> 37. Côted'Ivoire 195,0 77. USA 115,0
> 38. Tunisie 194,0 78. Lietuva 114,0
> 39. Ceská Repub. 189,0 79. Slovenija 111,0
> 40. Iran 188,0 80. Belarus 110,0
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This ranking changes a lot every year because it does not take into
> acocunt moving averages, which makes it too volatile. I do agree in
> the top three, not necessarily in that order, but those are the top
> three leagues.
> Argentina, Brazil and Mexico are the top three leagues in America.
> Today Brazil is above Argentina tho.

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:36:11 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Protesting United fans urge CL boycott

will true fans turn up? probably not. will "fans" turn up? of course
they will those plastic fans!

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> This would be a good poll: Will United Fans turn up to the game?
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > Fans are being urged to boycott Manchester United's Champions
> League
> > qualifying tie in an attempt to help force out the club's new
> owner,
> > Malcolm Glazer.
> >
> > United are due to play in the third round next month and will be
> > looking to secure their place in the Champions League group stage.
> >
> > However, the Independent Manchester United Supporters' Association
> do
> > not want fans to turn up and watch.
> >
> > "This boycott is the chance for them to show Glazer they do not
> want
> > him or his debts," said IMUSA spokesman Mark Longden.
> >
> > "It's simple - do not buy a ticket for this match. This is our
> chance
> > to demonstrate to Glazer that supporters do have a voice and are
> > prepared to use it," explained Longden.
> >
> > "He will keep targeting us to pay off his debts if he thinks we
> are
> > weak and willing. We are neither.
> >
> > "We react with horror at his plans for ticket prices, as more and
> > more decent, loyal, United fans will be priced out of going to the
> > club they love and support.
> >
> > "We will not allow that to happen."
> >
> > United won't know until the draw on 29 July who they must play,
> and
> > whether they will be at home on either 10 or 24 August.
> >
> > *********************************
> >
> > The man you love to hate :)

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:40:40 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Gerrard wants out of Liverpool!

yeah i know its 3 other countries....couple is just figure of speech
or something like that for me. the other countries haven't produced
anything much in years. most notable one of today is giggs and hes
probably only non english guy to make the line up. they have produced
some in the past like a few scots in the liverpool team of 70's and
80's and george best from northern ireland.....the best the smaller
islands have produced is matt le tissier and graeme le saux.

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> ooops...Actually, it's three shitty countries...Well, Wales and
> Northern Iseland have produced some really good players, no? do the
> Iselands (Man, Guersney, etc.) count?
>
> So, what would be an ideal Great Britain lineup?
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > because britain is really just england and a couple of shitty
> > countries made into it. without england, then britain is fuck all.
> > plus its not our fault we produce better players
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > What's the point in having a team called 'Great Britain' if 11
> > > Englishmen play in it? :)
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And what does the IOC say?
> > > >
> > > > It would be immensily silly if Britain would not have a
> Football
> > > > team in the Olympic Games.
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > nope. fifa says as we dont play as a british football team,
> we
> > > cant
> > > > > enter the olympics as one.
> > > > >
> > > > > nick
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? They don't allow it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > probably try and get it for a once off thing. cant see
> why we
> > > > cant.
> > > > > > > its fifa that are wankers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any news as how will team Great Britain will be formed?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > spurs might actually get an olympic footie game
> staged
> > > > there.
> > > > > > heres
> > > > > > > > > hoping!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > > > > > > > > <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nick's Wet Dream:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Somewhere in Madrid...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Butragueño: Yes Florentino, I think that we should
> buy
> > > > > > Gerrard
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > lend it to Spurs for 5 years.
> > > > > > > > > > Florentino: I think taht you are right, Spurs
> deserves
> > > > it
> > > > > > and we
> > > > > > > > > > have enough players and money. Let's do it!
> > > > > > > > > > Buitre: Yep, maybe they could get us in exchange
> some
> > > > good
> > > > > > seats
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > the 2012 Olympics!
> > > > > > > > > > Floren: YEAH! Good idea!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > CONGRATS FOR THE OLYMPICS!!!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In
> worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > In your dreams :p
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick
> > > Morris"
> > > > > > > > > > > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > think he should come to spurs. we would do
> well
> > > with
> > > > him
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > nick
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Steven Gerrard has asked to leave Champions
> > > League
> > > > > > winners
> > > > > > > > > > > Liveprool,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > informed the red outfit this afternoon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'The club has made it crystal clear we want
> to
> > > > keep
> > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anfield,' read the club's statement.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Sadly, he has told us this afternoon that
> he
> > > will
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > accept
> > > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > offer of an improved and extended contract
> > > because
> > > > he
> > > > > > > > wants to
> > > > > > > > > > > leave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Liverpool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'We very much regret the decision that has
> been
> > > > > > taken," it
> > > > > > > > > > > concluded.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A £32million offer on behalf of Chelsea for
> the
> > > > > > Liverpool
> > > > > > > > > > skipper
> > > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > apparently rejected by the Red management
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Reports from Spain indicate Liga giants Real
> > > > Madrid
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > offer £40 mil for the England star's
> services.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The bidding is now open!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ***********************************
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there isn't a better time for him to
> move.
> > > > > > Liverpool
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > hardly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > do better than this year.

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