Friday, June 24, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1528

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Ranger's raise Andorran standard
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
2. Re: Fixtures for the new season
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
3. Farina's fate tied to Cup results
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
4. Maradona joins Boca Juniors staff
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
5. Spurs issue ultimatum over Arnesen
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
6. France 2004/05
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
7. Dinamo make it a delightful dozen
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
8. Lokomotivi Tbilisi power to cup win
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
9. Re: Farina's fate tied to Cup results
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Farina's fate tied to Cup results
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:50:01 -0000
From: "Nick Morris" <n_i_c_k_17@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Ranger's raise Andorran standard

if they win? u have no confidence in our supreme andorran friends.
kill the infidel! lol

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> FC Ranger's came close to achieving an Andorran first in last
> weekend's Intertoto Cup games as they led Austrian side SK Sturm Graz.
>
> Ranger's hope
> Beto opened the scoring after 35 minutes of the first-round match,
> sparking the hope that an Andorran side might claim a first victory
> in European competition. However, Amadou Rabihou's equaliser 25
> minutes from time spared Sturm's blushes at the Estadi Communal.
>
> Austrian trip
> UE Sant Julià achieved a similar feat three seasons ago when holding
> Northern Ireland's Coleraine to a 2-2 draw, but Ranger's are striving
> to make Andorran history in the second leg on Sunday as they aim for
> a high-scoring draw or win in Austria to take them through.
>
> Youth tournament
> In the last month, the biggest events on the Andorran scene have been
> international youth competitions. The Memorial Francesc Vila
> tournament sees Europe's best Under-9 and Under-11 teams visit the
> principality with Barcelona triumphing in both categories this year.
>
> Girls' games
> Sides representing Real Madrid, Olympique de Marseille, Valencia,
> Hajduk Split, Atlético de Madrid and Rangers FC also participated,
> while reigning champions Ligue Midi Pyréneés overcame four other
> teams to win the one-day tournament for girls which forms part of the
> competition.
>
> ****************************
>
> If Ranger's can win in Graz, I promise never make fun of Andorran
> football anymore :)

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:04:48 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fixtures for the new season

Maybe, they both play in the CL 3rd qualifying round before and after
that game so..

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
<adrianbagley27@y...> wrote:
> Saturday, August 13, 2005
> Arsenal v Newcastle
> Aston Villa v Bolton
> Everton v Man Utd
> Fulham v Birmingham
> Man City v West Brom
> Middlesbrough v Liverpool
> Portsmouth v Tottenham
> Sunderland v Charlton
> West Ham v Blackburn
> Wigan v Chelsea
>
> Saturday, August 20, 2005
> Birmingham v Man City
> Blackburn v Fulham
> Bolton v Everton
> Charlton v Wigan
> Chelsea v Arsenal
> Liverpool v Sunderland
> Man Utd v Aston Villa
> Newcastle v West Ham
> Tottenham v Middlesbrough
> West Brom v Portsmouth
>
> Tuesday, August 23, 2005
> Arsenal v Fulham
> Birmingham v Middlesbrough
> Bolton v Newcastle
> Charlton v Liverpool
> Portsmouth v Aston Villa
> Sunderland v Man City
>
> Wednesday, August 24, 2005
> Blackburn v Tottenham
> Chelsea v West Brom
> Everton v West Ham
> Man Utd v Wigan
>
> Saturday, August 27, 2005
> Aston Villa v Blackburn
> Fulham v Everton
> Liverpool v Arsenal
> Man City v Portsmouth
> Middlesbrough v Charlton
> Newcastle v Man Utd
> Tottenham v Chelsea
> West Brom v Birmingham
> West Ham v Bolton
> Wigan v Sunderland
>
> Saturday, September 10, 2005
> Birmingham v Charlton
> Bolton v Blackburn
> Chelsea v Sunderland
> Everton v Portsmouth
> Man Utd v Man City
> Middlesbrough v Arsenal
> Newcastle v Fulham
> Tottenham v Liverpool
> West Brom v Wigan
> West Ham v Aston Villa
>
> Saturday, September 17, 2005
> Arsenal v Everton
> Aston Villa v Tottenham
> Blackburn v Newcastle
> Charlton v Chelsea
> Fulham v West Ham
> Liverpool v Man Utd
> Man City v Bolton
> Portsmouth v Birmingham
> Sunderland v West Brom
> Wigan v Middlesbrough
>
> Saturday, September 24, 2005
> Birmingham v Liverpool
> Bolton v Portsmouth
> Chelsea v Aston Villa
> Everton v Wigan
> Man Utd v Blackburn
> Middlesbrough v Sunderland
> Newcastle v Man City
> Tottenham v Fulham
> West Brom v Charlton
> West Ham v Arsenal
>
> Saturday, October 1, 2005
> Arsenal v Birmingham
> Aston Villa v Middlesbrough
> Blackburn v West Brom
> Charlton v Tottenham
> Fulham v Man Utd
> Liverpool v Chelsea
> Man City v Everton
> Portsmouth v Newcastle
> Sunderland v West Ham
> Wigan v Bolton
>
> Saturday, October 15, 2005
> Birmingham v Aston Villa
> Charlton v Fulham
> Chelsea v Bolton
> Liverpool v Blackburn
> Man City v West Ham
> Middlesbrough v Portsmouth
> Sunderland v Man Utd
> Tottenham v Everton
> West Brom v Arsenal
> Wigan v Newcastle
>
> Saturday, October 22, 2005
> Arsenal v Man City
> Aston Villa v Wigan
> Blackburn v Birmingham
> Bolton v West Brom
> Everton v Chelsea
> Fulham v Liverpool
> Man Utd v Tottenham
> Newcastle v Sunderland
> Portsmouth v Charlton
> West Ham v Middlesbrough
>
> Saturday, October 29, 2005
> Birmingham v Everton
> Charlton v Bolton
> Chelsea v Blackburn
> Liverpool v West Ham
> Man City v Aston Villa
> Middlesbrough v Man Utd
> Sunderland v Portsmouth
> Tottenham v Arsenal
> West Brom v Newcastle
> Wigan v Fulham
>
> Saturday, November 5, 2005
> Arsenal v Sunderland
> Aston Villa v Liverpool
> Blackburn v Charlton
> Bolton v Tottenham
> Everton v Middlesbrough
> Fulham v Man City
> Man Utd v Chelsea
> Newcastle v Birmingham
> Portsmouth v Wigan
> West Ham v West Brom
>
> Saturday, November 19, 2005
> Birmingham v Bolton
> Charlton v Man Utd
> Chelsea v Newcastle
> Liverpool v Portsmouth
> Man City v Blackburn
> Middlesbrough v Fulham
> Sunderland v Aston Villa
> Tottenham v West Ham
> West Brom v Everton
> Wigan v Arsenal
>
> Saturday, November 26, 2005
> Arsenal v Blackburn
> Aston Villa v Charlton
> Everton v Newcastle
> Fulham v Bolton
> Man City v Liverpool
> Middlesbrough v West Brom
> Portsmouth v Chelsea
> Sunderland v Birmingham
> West Ham v Man Utd
> Wigan v Tottenham
>
> Saturday, December 3, 2005
> Birmingham v West Ham
> Blackburn v Everton
> Bolton v Arsenal
> Charlton v Man City
> Chelsea v Middlesbrough
> Liverpool v Wigan
> Man Utd v Portsmouth
> Newcastle v Aston Villa
> Tottenham v Sunderland
> West Brom v Fulham
>
> Saturday, December 10, 2005
> Birmingham v Fulham
> Blackburn v West Ham
> Bolton v Aston Villa
> Charlton v Sunderland
> Chelsea v Wigan
> Liverpool v Middlesbrough
> Man Utd v Everton
> Newcastle v Arsenal
> Tottenham v Portsmouth
> West Brom v Man City
>
> Saturday, December 17, 2005
> Arsenal v Chelsea
> Aston Villa v Man Utd
> Everton v Bolton
> Fulham v Blackburn
> Man City v Birmingham
> Middlesbrough v Tottenham
> Portsmouth v West Brom
> Sunderland v Liverpool
> West Ham v Newcastle
> Wigan v Charlton
>
> Monday, December 26, 2005
> Aston Villa v Everton
> Charlton v Arsenal
> Chelsea v Fulham
> Liverpool v Newcastle
> Man Utd v West Brom
> Middlesbrough v Blackburn
> Portsmouth v West Ham
> Sunderland v Bolton
> Tottenham v Birmingham
> Wigan v Man City
>
> Wednesday, December 28, 2005
> Arsenal v Portsmouth
> Birmingham v Man Utd
> Blackburn v Sunderland
> Bolton v Middlesbrough
> Everton v Liverpool
> Fulham v Aston Villa
> Man City v Chelsea
> Newcastle v Charlton
> West Brom v Tottenham
> West Ham v Wigan
>
> Saturday, December 31, 2005
> Aston Villa v Arsenal
> Charlton v West Ham
> Chelsea v Birmingham
> Liverpool v West Brom
> Man Utd v Bolton
> Middlesbrough v Man City
> Portsmouth v Fulham
> Sunderland v Everton
> Tottenham v Newcastle
> Wigan v Blackburn
>
> Monday, January 2, 2006
> Arsenal v Man Utd
> Birmingham v Wigan
> Blackburn v Portsmouth
> Bolton v Liverpool
> Everton v Charlton
> Fulham v Sunderland
> Man City v Tottenham
> Newcastle v Middlesbrough
> West Brom v Aston Villa
> West Ham v Chelsea
>
> Saturday, January 14, 2006
> Arsenal v Middlesbrough
> Aston Villa v West Ham
> Blackburn v Bolton
> Charlton v Birmingham
> Fulham v Newcastle
> Liverpool v Tottenham
> Man City v Man Utd
> Portsmouth v Everton
> Sunderland v Chelsea
> Wigan v West Brom
>
> Saturday, January 21, 2006
> Birmingham v Portsmouth
> Bolton v Man City
> Chelsea v Charlton
> Everton v Arsenal
> Man Utd v Liverpool
> Middlesbrough v Wigan
> Newcastle v Blackburn
> Tottenham v Aston Villa
> West Brom v Sunderland
> West Ham v Fulham
>
> Tuesday, January 31, 2006
> Arsenal v West Ham
> Charlton v West Brom
> Liverpool v Birmingham
> Portsmouth v Bolton
> Sunderland v Middlesbrough
> Wigan v Everton
>
> Wednesday, February 1, 2006
> Aston Villa v Chelsea
> Blackburn v Man Utd
> Fulham v Tottenham
> Man City v Newcastle
>
> Saturday, February 4, 2006
> Birmingham v Arsenal
> Bolton v Wigan
> Chelsea v Liverpool
> Everton v Man City
> Man Utd v Fulham
> Middlesbrough v Aston Villa
> Newcastle v Portsmouth
> Tottenham v Charlton
> West Brom v Blackburn
> West Ham v Sunderland
>
> Saturday, February 11, 2006
> Arsenal v Bolton
> Aston Villa v Newcastle
> Everton v Blackburn
> Fulham v West Brom
> Man City v Charlton
> Middlesbrough v Chelsea
> Portsmouth v Man Utd
> Sunderland v Tottenham
> West Ham v Birmingham
> Wigan v Liverpool
>
> Saturday, February 25, 2006
> Birmingham v Sunderland
> Blackburn v Arsenal
> Bolton v Fulham
> Charlton v Aston Villa
> Chelsea v Portsmouth
> Liverpool v Man City
> Man Utd v West Ham
> Newcastle v Everton
> Tottenham v Wigan
> West Brom v Middlesbrough
>
> Saturday, March 4, 2006
> Aston Villa v Portsmouth
> Fulham v Arsenal
> Liverpool v Charlton
> Man City v Sunderland
> Middlesbrough v Birmingham
> Newcastle v Bolton
> Tottenham v Blackburn
> West Brom v Chelsea
> West Ham v Everton
> Wigan v Man Utd
>
> Saturday, March 11, 2006
> Arsenal v Liverpool
> Birmingham v West Brom
> Blackburn v Aston Villa
> Bolton v West Ham
> Charlton v Middlesbrough
> Chelsea v Tottenham
> Everton v Fulham
> Man Utd v Newcastle
> Portsmouth v Man City
> Sunderland v Wigan
>
> Saturday, March 18, 2006
> Arsenal v Charlton
> Birmingham v Tottenham
> Blackburn v Middlesbrough
> Bolton v Sunderland
> Everton v Aston Villa
> Fulham v Chelsea
> Man City v Wigan
> Newcastle v Liverpool
> West Brom v Man Utd
> West Ham v Portsmouth
>
> Saturday, March 25, 2006
> Aston Villa v Fulham
> Charlton v Newcastle
> Chelsea v Man City
> Liverpool v Everton
> Man Utd v Birmingham
> Middlesbrough v Bolton
> Portsmouth v Arsenal
> Sunderland v Blackburn
> Tottenham v West Brom
> Wigan v West Ham
>
> Saturday, April 1, 2006
> Arsenal v Aston Villa
> Birmingham v Chelsea
> Blackburn v Wigan
> Bolton v Man Utd
> Everton v Sunderland
> Fulham v Portsmouth
> Man City v Middlesbrough
> Newcastle v Tottenham
> West Brom v Liverpool
> West Ham v Charlton
>
> Saturday, April 8, 2006
> Aston Villa v West Brom
> Charlton v Everton
> Chelsea v West Ham
> Liverpool v Bolton
> Man Utd v Arsenal
> Middlesbrough v Newcastle
> Portsmouth v Blackburn
> Sunderland v Fulham
> Tottenham v Man City
> Wigan v Birmingham
>
> Saturday, April 15, 2006
> Arsenal v West Brom
> Aston Villa v Birmingham
> Blackburn v Liverpool
> Bolton v Chelsea
> Everton v Tottenham
> Fulham v Charlton
> Man Utd v Sunderland
> Newcastle v Wigan
> Portsmouth v Middlesbrough
> West Ham v Man City
>
> Monday, April 17, 2006
> Birmingham v Blackburn
> Charlton v Portsmouth
> Chelsea v Everton
> Liverpool v Fulham
> Man City v Arsenal
> Middlesbrough v West Ham
> Sunderland v Newcastle
> Tottenham v Man Utd
> West Brom v Bolton
> Wigan v Aston Villa
>
> Saturday, April 22, 2006
> Arsenal v Tottenham
> Aston Villa v Man City
> Blackburn v Chelsea
> Bolton v Charlton
> Everton v Birmingham
> Fulham v Wigan
> Man Utd v Middlesbrough
> Newcastle v West Brom
> Portsmouth v Sunderland
> West Ham v Liverpool
>
> Saturday, April 29, 2006
> Birmingham v Newcastle
> Charlton v Blackburn
> Chelsea v Man Utd
> Liverpool v Aston Villa
> Man City v Fulham
> Middlesbrough v Everton
> Sunderland v Arsenal
> Tottenham v Bolton
> West Brom v West Ham
> Wigan v Portsmouth
>
> Sunday, May 7, 2006
> Arsenal v Wigan
> Aston Villa v Sunderland
> Blackburn v Man City
> Bolton v Birmingham
> Everton v West Brom
> Fulham v Middlesbrough
> Man Utd v Charlton
> Newcastle v Chelsea
> Portsmouth v Liverpool
> West Ham v Tottenham
>
> In a way, I'm happy that we've got Middlesbrough away in the 1st
match even though we usually do NOT do well there. 1 particular
interesting opening day fixture is Everton vs Manchester United.
Playing Manchester United is the 1 match that I hope that Everton
will beat those wankers. Has for Chelsea, they could have had easier
open day matches than Wigan away.
>
> Aid
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:35:53 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Farina's fate tied to Cup results

At a news conference in Nuremberg last week, a Belgian journalist
asked Frank Farina if he had good memories of his three years with
one of that country's leading clubs, Club Brugge, in the late 1980s.

"Yes, yes, I do," said Farina. "It's a long time ago, but I still
have many friends there, and my son Jordan was born there."

The journalist replied: "Do you know Club Brugge is now looking for a
coach?" Rapier-like, Farina responded: "Soon, Australia might be
looking for one, too."

The room erupted in laughter. When the mirth had died down, Farina
turned to one camera and said: "That was a joke, right?"

Despite continuing conjecture about his position, Farina will not be
sacked before Australia's World Cup fate is decided later this year.

The Socceroos may have slumped at the Confederations Cup, but the
hierarchy has decided, quite sensibly, that it is way too late to be
changing the coach. But Farina does need to take a long, hard look at
what has occurred over the past 10 days, and act upon it - in
particular, the lifeless display in the final group match against
Tunisia.

Traditionally, when pride has been on the line, Australian teams have
risen to the challenge. This time, the team waved the white flag. It
was demoralising and unacceptable. More importantly, it was an insult
to Farina and the loyalty he has shown his players.

Farina seemed momentarily nonplussed when asked if the players and,
by inference, the coaching staff had let themselves down. No, and
then maybe, were his answers. But the truth is less equivocal. Farina
has stuck by the core of the team for most of his six years in charge
and the latest team contained eight survivors from the failed 2001
World Cup campaign.

Farina's faith is exemplified in defence, but the situation has
surely reached crisis point. A few months ago, the players viewed the
criticism as unfair and unbalanced. Ten goals and three games later,
they are finally accepting the obvious. There are deep-seated
problems with the way the Socceroos are defending their goal. Those
problems, in all likelihood, will deny Australia a place at next
year's World Cup finals in Germany unless they are fixed.

Farina and his support staff of Graham Arnold and Ron Smith have
worked on shape since the team arrived in London almost three weeks
ago. Based on the two goals conceded against Tunisia, they haven't
made much progress.

True enough, both of Tunisia's goals came from errors - "schoolboy
errors", as Farina calls them. But the reality is that Tunisia could
have scored more. It was not that long ago that picking goalkeepers
and defenders was the easiest part of coaching the Socceroos.

No matter who was selected, the back door was always shut tight. Now
the team's historical strength has become its greatest weakness.

Winning a header, tracking a run, getting tight on an opponent around
the area - these are not something a coach should have to emphasise
to highly-paid professionals in a national team.

Farina maintains that nothing really counts until the play-offs, and
even the Confederations Cup is no more than a dress rehearsal. He has
four games left to make sure he doesn't get caught with his pants
down.

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I know I still have good memories of Farina like when he scored 4
times during a 10-0 trashing of our neighbours Cercle Brugge in a
league game :p

Anyway, I think Australia didn't do that bad. But I havn't seen their
last game against Tunisia...

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:57:42 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Maradona joins Boca Juniors staff

Boca Juniors have a new vice president of their technical department,
living legend Diego Armando Maradona.

The 1986 World Cup winner is extremely excited over his new role, which
he offered details of to the many reporters present at the press
conference.

"I won't be behind a desk. I will work with the players and the coach.
I will be close to them and the fans," said `El Pibe de Oro'.

Boca chairman Macri added, "Diego will approve the choice of the coach
and of the players we decide to buy and sell. He doesn't have actual
managerial responsibilities, but his opinion will be very important,"
he said.

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Again another job...
At least Boca is his club.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:03:16 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Spurs issue ultimatum over Arnesen

Tottenham Hotspur have given Chelsea until 1200 BST on Friday to
resolve the row over the Blues' approach to Spurs sporting director
Frank Arnesen.

Photographs in today's newpapers show Arnesen on board Chelsea owner
Roman Abramovich's yacht, though Chelsea insist the meeting
was "purely a social occasion".

"Having seen the pictures we've contacted Chelsea and set them a
deadline," said a Spurs spokeswoman.

"If we don't reach agreement by noon on Friday, we'll make a formal
complaint."

Tottenham suspended Arnesen on 4 June after they claimed Chelsea had
approached him without consent, and after the Dane had indicated he
wanted to move to Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea have maintained throughout that they followed Premier League
rules.

The Blues already have a suspended three-point deduction hanging over
them after being found guilty of "tapping-up" Arsenal's Ashley Cole.

The two clubs had been in extensive negotiations over a compensation
package when it became clear Arnesen was keen to join Chelsea.

But potential deals between the two London rivals, including Spurs
moves for Chelsea players Scott Parker (now at Newcastle), Mikael
Forsell and Carlton Cole, have all fallen through.

The publication of the photographs from Abramovich's yacht, taken
earlier this week in Sardinia, has infuriated Spurs and prompted the
ultimatum.

Abramovich is believed to have returned to England to take part in
emergency talks with Tottenham and stave off the threat of a points
deduction.

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Sounds alot like the Sollied-Olympiacos case...
Would be nice to see Chelsea start with -3 :p

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:46:42 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: France 2004/05

Final Table:
1. Olympique Lyonnais.... 38 22 13 03 56-22 79 Champions
2. Lille OSC............. 38 18 13 07 52-29 67 Champions League
3. AS Monaco FC.......... 38 15 18 05 52-35 63 CL Qualifying
4. Stade Rennais FC...... 38 15 10 13 49-42 55 UEFA Cup
5. Olympique de Marseille 38 15 10 13 47-42 55 Intertoto
6. AS Saint-Etienne...... 38 12 17 09 47-34 53 Intertoto
7. RC Lens............... 38 13 13 12 45-39 52 Intertoto
8. AJ Auxerre............ 38 14 10 14 48-47 52 UEFA Cup (Cup)
9. Paris-Saint-Germain FC 38 12 15 11 40-41 51
10.FC Sochaux-Montbéliard 38 13 11 14 42-41 50
11.RC Strasbourg......... 38 12 12 14 42-43 48 UEFA Cup (League Cup)
12.OGC Nice.............. 38 10 16 12 38-45 46
13.Toulouse FC........... 38 12 10 16 36-43 46
14.AC Ajaccio............ 38 10 15 13 36-40 45
15.FC Girondins Bordeaux. 38 08 20 10 37-41 44
16.FC Metz............... 38 10 14 14 33-45 44
17.FC Nantes............. 38 10 13 15 33-38 43
18.Stade Malherbe Caen... 38 10 12 16 36-60 42 Relegated
19.SC Bastia............. 38 11 08 19 32-48 41 Relegated
20.FC Istres............. 38 06 14 18 25-51 32 Relegated

Topscorers:
20 Alexander Frei (Rennes)
15 Mickaël Pagis (Strasbourg)
14 Pedro M.Pauleta (Paris SG)
13 Pascal Feindouno (St.Etienne)
13 Araujo Dall'Igna Ilan (Sochaux)
13 Juninho Pernambucano (Lyon)
13 Sebastien Mazure (Caen)
13 Matt Moussilou (Lille)
12 Mamadou Niang (Strasbourg)
12 John Utaka (Lens)

Last champions:
1997/98 Lens
1998/99 Bordeaux
1999/00 AS Monaco
2000/01 Nantes
2001/02 Lyon
2002/03 Lyon
2003/04 Lyon
2004/05 Lyon

Number of Titles
10 AS Saint-Étienne
08 Olympique de Marseille
08 Football Club de Nantes
07 AS Monaco
06 Stade de Reims
05 Girondins de Bordeaux
04 Olympique Gymnaste Club de Nice
04 Olympique de Lyon

France Second Level 2004/05
Final Table:
1.AS Nancy Lorraine 38 21 08 09 54-33 71 Promoted
2.Le Mans UC72..... 38 20 08 10 51-30 68 Promoted
3.Troyes........... 38 20 08 10 61-48 68 Promoted
4.Dijon FCO........ 38 14 15 09 44-34 57
5.Châteauroux...... 38 14 15 09 51-43 57

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What a great season for Lille and Rennes, I am also very happy to see
that Nantes managed to save themselves. They have such a good
youngsters school that they deserve first division football :)

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:12:36 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Dinamo make it a delightful dozen

Dinamo Tbilisi are celebrating their 12th league title in Georgia
after clinching the championship with a 3-0 final-day victory against
Dinamo Batumi.

Melkadze again
Dinamo Tbilisi striker Levan Melkadze set the home side on their way
with his 27th goal of the season in the 35th minute. Four minutes
later, Vladimir Dvalishvili fired into the top corner to make it two
before Georgi Chelidze sealed the win with an 89th-minute penalty.
Dinamo coach Kakhaber Tskhadadze, the former Georgian international
who only took charge of the team in March, said: "We worked hard and
that is why we won." His side also competed in the 2004/05 UEFA Cup
group stage.

Final Table:
1.Dinamo Tbilisi..... 36 23 06 07 73-27 75 Champions
2.Torpedo Kutaisi.... 36 20 10 06 56-31 70 UEFA Cup
3.FC Tbilisi......... 36 21 06 09 60-40 69
4.Lokomotivi Tbilisi. 36 16 15 05 42-24 63 UEFA Cup (Cup)
5.FC Zestafoni....... 36 16 05 15 38-48 53
6.WIT Georgia Tbilisi 36 13 09 14 54-41 48 Intertoto
7.Sioni Bolnisi...... 36 12 04 20 35-56 40
8.Dinamo Batumi...... 36 09 12 15 35-33 39
9.Kolkheti 1913 Poti. 36 09 05 22 32-63 32 Relegated
10.Dila Gori......... 36 02 04 30 20-88 10 Relegated

Topscorers:
27 Levani Melkadze (Dinamo Tb)
23 Giorgi Megreladze (Torpedo)
13 Giorgi Fifia (Tbilisi)

Champions since independence
1990... Iberia Tbilisi
1991... Iberia Tbilisi
1991/92 Iberia-Dinamo Tbilisi
1992/93 Dinamo Tbilisi
1993/94 Dinamo Tbilisi
1994/95 Dinamo Tbilisi
1995/96 Dinamo Tbilisi
1996/97 Dinamo Tbilisi
1997/98 Dinamo Tbilisi
1998/99 Dinamo Tbilisi
1999/00 Torpedo Kutaisi
2000/01 Torpedo Kutaisi
2001/02 Torpedo Kutaisi
2002/03 Dinamo Tbilisi
2003/04 WIT Georgia Tbilisi
2004/05 Dinamo Tbilisi

Number of Titles
12 Dinamo Tbilisi (includes Iberia)
03 Torpedo Kutaisi
01 WIT Georgia Tbilisi

Georgia Second Level 2004/05
Final Table:
1.Ameri Tbilisi... 30 23 03 04 93-18 72 Promoted
2.FK Borjomi...... 30 22 03 05 74-36 69 Promoted
3.Spartaki Tbilisi 30 16 09 05 52-36 57
4.Kakheti Telavi.. 30 17 04 09 57-41 55

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Another title for Dinamo...
And with all the dirty money getting inthere, it won't change soon :)

Ah, we're going to have a new Tbilisi team in the first division next
year :p

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:30:40 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Lokomotivi Tbilisi power to cup win

Two goals in three second-half minutes gave Lokomotiv Tbilisi their
third Georgian Cup with a 2-0 final victory over Zestaponi that
clinched a UEFA Cup berth.

Quick-fire goals
Mikheil Bobokhidze capped off a brisk counterattack on 53 minutes,
striking a powerful shot into the corner of the goal to break the
deadlock. Within three minutes, the side who had spent much of the
match on the back foot, doubled their advantage when Nukri Manchkava
rifled a superb long-range effort into top corner.

Pivotal moment
The goals were a cruel blow to Zestafoni who had dominated much of
the encounter at the National stadium but found Lokomotivi Tbilisi
goalkeeper Zviadi Sturua in superlative form. Sturua was finally
beaten five minutes after the interval, when Zaza Zirakishvili headed
in a free-kick, but his celebrations were cut short by the assistant
referee's flag.

Third triumph
Six minutes later, Zestafoni were two down and coach Teimuraz
Makharadze threw caution to the wind and pushed his players forward.
But it was to no avail, and it was the capital club that came closest
to scoring when Levan Sanikidze hit the post late on, before his team
settled for a 2-0 win and their third cup triumph in six years.

Last finals:
1999/00 Lokomotivi Tbilisi 0-0 Torpedo Kutaisi [4-2 pen]
2000/01 Torpedo Kutaisi 0-0 Lokomotivi Tbilisi [4-3 pen]
2001/02 Lokomotivi Tbilisi 2-0 Torpedo Kutaisi
2002/03 Dinamo Tbilisi 3-1 Sioni Bolnisi
2003/04 Dinamo Tbilisi 2-1 Torpedo Kutaisi
2004/05 Lokomotivi Tbilisi 2-0 FK Zestafoni

Number of Wins
8 [1] Dinamo Tbilisi
3 [1] Lokomotivi Tbilisi
2 [3] Torpedo Kutaisi

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:46:35 -0000
From: "Manuel" <manuelgon_1999@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Farina's fate tied to Cup results

lost 2-0

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
<jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> At a news conference in Nuremberg last week, a Belgian journalist
> asked Frank Farina if he had good memories of his three years with
> one of that country's leading clubs, Club Brugge, in the late
1980s.
>
> "Yes, yes, I do," said Farina. "It's a long time ago, but I still
> have many friends there, and my son Jordan was born there."
>
> The journalist replied: "Do you know Club Brugge is now looking
for a
> coach?" Rapier-like, Farina responded: "Soon, Australia might be
> looking for one, too."
>
> The room erupted in laughter. When the mirth had died down, Farina
> turned to one camera and said: "That was a joke, right?"
>
> Despite continuing conjecture about his position, Farina will not
be
> sacked before Australia's World Cup fate is decided later this
year.
>
> The Socceroos may have slumped at the Confederations Cup, but the
> hierarchy has decided, quite sensibly, that it is way too late to
be
> changing the coach. But Farina does need to take a long, hard look
at
> what has occurred over the past 10 days, and act upon it - in
> particular, the lifeless display in the final group match against
> Tunisia.
>
> Traditionally, when pride has been on the line, Australian teams
have
> risen to the challenge. This time, the team waved the white flag.
It
> was demoralising and unacceptable. More importantly, it was an
insult
> to Farina and the loyalty he has shown his players.
>
> Farina seemed momentarily nonplussed when asked if the players
and,
> by inference, the coaching staff had let themselves down. No, and
> then maybe, were his answers. But the truth is less equivocal.
Farina
> has stuck by the core of the team for most of his six years in
charge
> and the latest team contained eight survivors from the failed 2001
> World Cup campaign.
>
> Farina's faith is exemplified in defence, but the situation has
> surely reached crisis point. A few months ago, the players viewed
the
> criticism as unfair and unbalanced. Ten goals and three games
later,
> they are finally accepting the obvious. There are deep-seated
> problems with the way the Socceroos are defending their goal.
Those
> problems, in all likelihood, will deny Australia a place at next
> year's World Cup finals in Germany unless they are fixed.
>
> Farina and his support staff of Graham Arnold and Ron Smith have
> worked on shape since the team arrived in London almost three
weeks
> ago. Based on the two goals conceded against Tunisia, they haven't
> made much progress.
>
> True enough, both of Tunisia's goals came from errors - "schoolboy
> errors", as Farina calls them. But the reality is that Tunisia
could
> have scored more. It was not that long ago that picking
goalkeepers
> and defenders was the easiest part of coaching the Socceroos.
>
> No matter who was selected, the back door was always shut tight.
Now
> the team's historical strength has become its greatest weakness.
>
> Winning a header, tracking a run, getting tight on an opponent
around
> the area - these are not something a coach should have to
emphasise
> to highly-paid professionals in a national team.
>
> Farina maintains that nothing really counts until the play-offs,
and
> even the Confederations Cup is no more than a dress rehearsal. He
has
> four games left to make sure he doesn't get caught with his pants
> down.
>
> ***************************
>
> I know I still have good memories of Farina like when he scored 4
> times during a 10-0 trashing of our neighbours Cercle Brugge in a
> league game :p
>
> Anyway, I think Australia didn't do that bad. But I havn't seen
their
> last game against Tunisia...

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:51:39 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint" <jer_vanlint@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Farina's fate tied to Cup results

I know the result, just havn't seen how they played :)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> lost 2-0
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> <jer_vanlint@y...> wrote:
> > At a news conference in Nuremberg last week, a Belgian journalist
> > asked Frank Farina if he had good memories of his three years
with
> > one of that country's leading clubs, Club Brugge, in the late
> 1980s.
> >
> > "Yes, yes, I do," said Farina. "It's a long time ago, but I still
> > have many friends there, and my son Jordan was born there."
> >
> > The journalist replied: "Do you know Club Brugge is now looking
> for a
> > coach?" Rapier-like, Farina responded: "Soon, Australia might be
> > looking for one, too."
> >
> > The room erupted in laughter. When the mirth had died down,
Farina
> > turned to one camera and said: "That was a joke, right?"
> >
> > Despite continuing conjecture about his position, Farina will not
> be
> > sacked before Australia's World Cup fate is decided later this
> year.
> >
> > The Socceroos may have slumped at the Confederations Cup, but the
> > hierarchy has decided, quite sensibly, that it is way too late to
> be
> > changing the coach. But Farina does need to take a long, hard
look
> at
> > what has occurred over the past 10 days, and act upon it - in
> > particular, the lifeless display in the final group match against
> > Tunisia.
> >
> > Traditionally, when pride has been on the line, Australian teams
> have
> > risen to the challenge. This time, the team waved the white flag.
> It
> > was demoralising and unacceptable. More importantly, it was an
> insult
> > to Farina and the loyalty he has shown his players.
> >
> > Farina seemed momentarily nonplussed when asked if the players
> and,
> > by inference, the coaching staff had let themselves down. No, and
> > then maybe, were his answers. But the truth is less equivocal.
> Farina
> > has stuck by the core of the team for most of his six years in
> charge
> > and the latest team contained eight survivors from the failed
2001
> > World Cup campaign.
> >
> > Farina's faith is exemplified in defence, but the situation has
> > surely reached crisis point. A few months ago, the players viewed
> the
> > criticism as unfair and unbalanced. Ten goals and three games
> later,
> > they are finally accepting the obvious. There are deep-seated
> > problems with the way the Socceroos are defending their goal.
> Those
> > problems, in all likelihood, will deny Australia a place at next
> > year's World Cup finals in Germany unless they are fixed.
> >
> > Farina and his support staff of Graham Arnold and Ron Smith have
> > worked on shape since the team arrived in London almost three
> weeks
> > ago. Based on the two goals conceded against Tunisia, they
haven't
> > made much progress.
> >
> > True enough, both of Tunisia's goals came from errors -
"schoolboy
> > errors", as Farina calls them. But the reality is that Tunisia
> could
> > have scored more. It was not that long ago that picking
> goalkeepers
> > and defenders was the easiest part of coaching the Socceroos.
> >
> > No matter who was selected, the back door was always shut tight.
> Now
> > the team's historical strength has become its greatest weakness.
> >
> > Winning a header, tracking a run, getting tight on an opponent
> around
> > the area - these are not something a coach should have to
> emphasise
> > to highly-paid professionals in a national team.
> >
> > Farina maintains that nothing really counts until the play-offs,
> and
> > even the Confederations Cup is no more than a dress rehearsal. He
> has
> > four games left to make sure he doesn't get caught with his pants
> > down.
> >
> > ***************************
> >
> > I know I still have good memories of Farina like when he scored 4
> > times during a 10-0 trashing of our neighbours Cercle Brugge in a
> > league game :p
> >
> > Anyway, I think Australia didn't do that bad. But I havn't seen
> their
> > last game against Tunisia...

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