Saturday, May 28, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1500

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Oh My God...
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
2. Only the Dutch...
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
3. Gerrard's Cup Fetish
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
4. Nick, what u done now ??
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
5. I swear, these Romanians are collaborating
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
6. What a night! :D
From: Steive Mr Liverpool Gerrard <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
7. What a night :D
From: Stevie Mr Liverpool Gerrard <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
8. Rating the Liverpool players
From: Sir Rafa Benitez <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
9. Shevchenko praises Liverpool
From: Baros the number 1 Milan <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
10. Now whats going to happen
From: Jerzy Dudek goalkeeping legend <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
11. Re: Nick, what u done now ??
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
12. Re: Gerrard's Cup Fetish
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
13. Re: Liverpool are European champions
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
14. Re: Liverpool are European champions
From: "jerzy_dudek_goalkeeping_legend" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
15. Liverpool get backing from other clubs
From: Sir Rafa Benitez <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
16. Re: What a night :D
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
17. Re: Shevchenko praises Liverpool
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
18. Re: Now whats going to happen
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
19. Re: Gerrard's Cup Fetish
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:52:51 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Oh My God...

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13358181,00.html

They're at it again! :))

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:07:03 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Only the Dutch...

Burglars caught having sex

Police in Holland caught two burglars having sex in the house they had
broken into.

Neighbours of the empty house in Beuningen alerted police after they
heard suspicious noises.

Officers went to investigate and found a 39-year-old man and a woman,
35, having sex.

They told police they broke into the house only because they were
desperate to make love.

Police said they would not be charged.

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Too funny :))

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:50 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Gerrard's Cup Fetish

Gerrard slept with cup

Steven Gerrard has revealed his slept with the European Cup.

He said: "I slept with the trophy in my room.

"I did not want to let it out of my sight. When someone took it away
from me it felt as though somehow I had lost a part of me."

He made the confession as the Liverpool team were welcomed home by
thousands of fans reports The Sun.

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Strange lad:))

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:09:42 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Nick, what u done now ??

Darth Vader shows his dark side

Police in Malaysia are hunting a man who flashes women while wearing a
Darth Vader costume.

The Star Wars flasher exposed himself to women factory workers in two
industrial areas of Bandar Baru Nilai.

Priscilla, 33, a factory supervisor, said the man got out of his car,
strutted about menacingly in his Darth Vader suit before flashing to
15 women workers standing at a bus stop at 7am.

"At first, I thought he was a die-hard Star Wars fan trying to impress
us with his costume. But we were shocked when he showed us his private
parts," she told Malaysia's Star newspaper.

The women were waiting for buses to take them home after their night
shift.

When some of the women screamed, he jumped into his car and drove off.

"Next time it will not be Revenge of the Sith but revenge on a sick
man if we catch him doing his act again," Priscilla added.

The flasher was reported to have displayed himself to another group of
workers at a second factory nearby.

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Nick has gone too far this time :))

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:13:23 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: I swear, these Romanians are collaborating

Football manager sacked by SMS

The manager of a Romanian football team on the verge of promotion was
sacked - by text message.

Lucian Popa, coach of third division side ASA Targu Mures, was
expecting congratulations from the club president.

But when he opened the message, he found that he had been fired.

The text said: "As of tomorrow we are giving up on you. Your attitude
has been bothering us, and it would be better if we went our separate
ways."

Popa said he would have least have expected a phone call: "Sending a
text message was just sheer cowardice.

"I admit Lacatusu and I have had our differences in the past, but I
think I at least deserved a phone call," he told Gazeta Sporturilor.

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:))

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:39:01 +0100 (BST)
From: Steive Mr Liverpool Gerrard <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: What a night! :D

Its Wednesday, its 7:40pm British time and I was at home, in my bedroom with my TV on, getting ready to watch the 50th European Cup final between Liverpool (Who I wanted to win) and AC Milan. I wished I was over there in Istanbul (The Liverpool fans in the stadium easily outnumbered the AC Milan fans) to watch the match but even though I wasn't there, I was looking forward to watching probably the biggest match that I've ever seen. At 7:45pm, the match started. However, Liverpool could not have made a worse start. The left back Djimi Traore made a very shaky start (He went on to have a nightmare 1st half) and conceded a freekick. From that freekick, the ball was played across to the edge of the box to Milan's 37 year old left back Paolo Maldini and he hit a first time shot into the ground, past the goalkeeper Jerzy Dudek and into the net. 1-0 to AC Milan inside a minute. Things looked worse when Milan striker Shevchenko thought he scored Milan's 2nd goal but it was ruled out for
offside. I was relieved but it was only temporary. Liverpool should have had penalty when the ball hit the elbow of one of Milan's defender and from there, Milan went up the other end and made it 2-0 thanks to their Argentinian striker Hernan Crespo. Things surely couldn't get worse in the 1st half. It did. A great pass from their Brazilian playmaker Kaka send Crespo through and he finished superbly. So at halftime, it was AC Milan 3 Liverpool 0. The way it was going, the final score would have been 6-0 and that would have been total humilation. Yet, I was not totally 100% convinced that it was all over. I was thinking about the times when Liverpool came back from 3-0 down (In a league match at Anfield against Manchester United in the early 1990s and in a match in Switzerland against Basel a few years ago in the same competition that Liverpool wanted to win last night) even though I was shellshocked after watching the 1st half.
So when the 2nd half began, Liverpool needed to score the next goal to have any chance. But incredibly, in the space of 6 to 7 2nd half minutes, Liverpool didn't just score once, they scored 3 times. 3-0 had become 3-3. First, the insparational captain Steven Gerrard headed home a John Arne Riise cross to make it 3-1. After that goal, he got the other players and the fans believing that they could still do it. About 2 minutes later, Vladimir Smicer hit a 20 yard shot which striker Milan Baros did brilliantly not to get in the way and the Milan keeper Dida only managed to knock the ball into the net. It was now 3-2 and it was game on again. And then Gerrard burst into the box and was brought down from the behind, the referee gave a penalty. Up stepped Xabi Alonso but Dida saved the penalty but Alonso followed up and smashed the rebound into the roof of the net. Incredibly, it was now 3-3. From there, I thought that there was only 1 team (Liverpool) who was going to win it in 90
minutes. But the 4th goal didn't come so the match went into extra time. In the 2 15 minute periods, Liverpool played for penalties and I didn't blame them. However, it nearly backfired on them in the most dramtic fashion. Near the end of extra time, Shevchenko had a header saved by Dudek and from the rebound, it looked easy for Shevchenko just to knock it in. But amazingly, he smashed the ball straight at Dudek and it somehow ended up going over the bar. So with extra time over and the final score 3-3, it was time for penalties.
When Milan missed their first 2 penalties and Liverpool scored their first 2, Liverpool were in control. Milan scored their 3rd penalty to make it 1-2. But then, Riise missed Liverpool's 3rd kick of the penalty shootout (To be fair, it was a brilliant save by Dida). After that, I thought "Please, don't let that be the turning point". Then Milan scored their 4th kick and Liverpool scored their 4th kick and Liverpool were 3-2 up on penalties. So up stepped Shevchenko (The best striker in the world) to take Milan's 5th kick. Now I expected him to score. So he ran up, kicked the ball and Dudek actually saved it. With that save, Liverpool were crowned champions of Europe for the 5th time. 1 thing to note about Dudek in the penalty shootout was that he didn't just make the saves, he was also moving about on his goaline, waving his arms about and wobbling his legs. The things he was doing was amazing and it worked. All the Liverpool players ran over to Dudek and congratulated him because it
was he who was the hero. The celebrations were great. And when Steven Gerrard lifted the trophy above his head, what a moment that was. What happened over there in Istanbul made me proud to have Liverpool as my favourite team and proud to be an Englishman. What a night

Aid


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:41:32 +0100 (BST)
From: Stevie Mr Liverpool Gerrard <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: What a night :D

Its Wednesday, its 7:40pm British time and I was at home, in my bedroom with my TV on, getting ready to watch the 50th European Cup final between Liverpool (Who I wanted to win) and AC Milan. I wished I was over there in Istanbul (The Liverpool fans in the stadium easily outnumbered the AC Milan fans) to watch the match but even though I wasn't there, I was looking forward to watching probably the biggest match that I've ever seen. At 7:45pm, the match started. However, Liverpool could not have made a worse start. The left back Djimi Traore made a very shaky start (He went on to have a nightmare 1st half) and conceded a freekick. From that freekick, the ball was played across to the edge of the box to Milan's 37 year old left back Paolo Maldini and he hit a first time shot into the ground, past the goalkeeper Jerzy Dudek and into the net. 1-0 to AC Milan inside a minute. Things looked worse when Milan striker Shevchenko thought he scored Milan's 2nd goal but it was ruled out for
offside. I was relieved but it was only temporary. Liverpool should have had penalty when the ball hit the elbow of one of Milan's defender and from there, Milan went up the other end and made it 2-0 thanks to their Argentinian striker Hernan Crespo. Things surely couldn't get worse in the 1st half. It did. A great pass from their Brazilian playmaker Kaka send Crespo through and he finished superbly. So at halftime, it was AC Milan 3 Liverpool 0. The way it was going, the final score would have been 6-0 and that would have been total humilation. Yet, I was not totally 100% convinced that it was all over. I was thinking about the times when Liverpool came back from 3-0 down (In a league match at Anfield against Manchester United in the early 1990s and in a match in Switzerland against Basel a few years ago in the same competition that Liverpool wanted to win last night) even though I was shellshocked after watching the 1st half.
So when the 2nd half began, Liverpool needed to score the next goal to have any chance. But incredibly, in the space of 6 to 7 2nd half minutes, Liverpool didn't just score once, they scored 3 times. 3-0 had become 3-3. First, the insparational captain Steven Gerrard headed home a John Arne Riise cross to make it 3-1. After that goal, he got the other players and the fans believing that they could still do it. About 2 minutes later, Vladimir Smicer hit a 20 yard shot which striker Milan Baros did brilliantly not to get in the way and the Milan keeper Dida only managed to knock the ball into the net. It was now 3-2 and it was game on again. And then Gerrard burst into the box and was brought down from the behind, the referee gave a penalty. Up stepped Xabi Alonso but Dida saved the penalty but Alonso followed up and smashed the rebound into the roof of the net. Incredibly, it was now 3-3. From there, I thought that there was only 1 team (Liverpool) who was going to win it in 90
minutes. But the 4th goal didn't come so the match went into extra time. In the 2 15 minute periods, Liverpool played for penalties and I didn't blame them. However, it nearly backfired on them in the most dramtic fashion. Near the end of extra time, Shevchenko had a header saved by Dudek and from the rebound, it looked easy for Shevchenko just to knock it in. But amazingly, he smashed the ball straight at Dudek and it somehow ended up going over the bar. So with extra time over and the final score 3-3, it was time for penalties.
When Milan missed their first 2 penalties and Liverpool scored their first 2, Liverpool were in control. Milan scored their 3rd penalty to make it 1-2. But then, Riise missed Liverpool's 3rd kick of the penalty shootout (To be fair, it was a brilliant save by Dida). After that, I thought "Please, don't let that be the turning point". Then Milan scored their 4th kick and Liverpool scored their 4th kick and Liverpool were 3-2 up on penalties. So up stepped Shevchenko (The best striker in the world) to take Milan's 5th kick. Now I expected him to score. So he ran up, kicked the ball and Dudek actually saved it. With that save, Liverpool were crowned champions of Europe for the 5th time. 1 thing to note about Dudek in the penalty shootout was that he didn't just make the saves, he was also moving about on his goaline, waving his arms about and wobbling his legs. The things he was doing was amazing and it worked. All the Liverpool players ran over to Dudek and congratulated him because it
was he who was the hero. The celebrations were great. And when Steven Gerrard lifted the trophy above his head, what a moment that was. What happened over there in Istanbul made me proud to have Liverpool as my favourite team and proud to be an Englishman. What a night

Aid


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:45:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Sir Rafa Benitez <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Rating the Liverpool players

Jerzy Dudek: 8

Made mistakes in the match but, made some important saves. The double save from Shevchenko in extra time was unbelievable and his antics (Which were great) and saves in the penalty shootout won the trophy.

Steve Finnan: 6

Struggled as Milan kept pouring forward in the 1st half. Substituted at halftime.

Djimi Traore: 5

His 1st half performance was probably the worst I’ve ever seen from him. To his credit, he did improve afterwards.

Sami Hyypia: 7

Did well after struggling in the 1st half to contain Crespo & Shevchenko.

Jamie Carragher: 8

Despite having to put up with Milan pouring forward in the 1st half, he went on to have a good game.

Luis Garcia: 6

Not his best performance of the season but wasn’t bad.

Steven Gerrard: 9

The main man. He was the main reason why Liverpool pulled off that legendary comeback.

Xabi Alonso: 7

Despite having his penalty saved, he followed up to score from the rebound to complete the incredible comeback from 3-0 down.

John Arne Riise: 7

Supplied the cross from which Gerrard headed home Liverpool’s 1st goal.

Harry Kewell: 5

Struggled and was taken off early because of injury.

Milan Baros: 7

Did brilliantly not to let Smicer’s shot for the 2nd goal hit him. Also, his flick to Gerrard that led to the penalty was excellent.

Djibril Cisse: 6

Came on for Baros in the 84th minute.

Dietmar Hamann: 8

Came on at halftime for Finnan. Made a big difference to the team.

Vladimir Smicer: 7

Came on for Kewell in the 22nd minute. Scored the 2nd goal.

Aid


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:53:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Baros the number 1 Milan <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Shevchenko praises Liverpool

Andriy Shevchenko believes Liverpool were destined to claim the Champions League but still praised their 'winning mentality'.

The AC Milan striker, who missed the decisive penalty in the shoot-out after a pulsating 3-3 draw in Istanbul, was impressed at the way Rafael Benitez's men hit back to take the game into extra-time after being 3-0 down at the interval.

He told PA International: 'It's very hard to explain.

'But I think it was destiny that decided to change sides and give the cup to Liverpool.

'With a 3-0 advantage it's difficult to think that any team can come back against Milan.

'But Liverpool found the courage to continue.

'Believe me, it's not easy when you are 3-0 down.

'They never lost hope, they believed right until the end that it was possible and I guess that is the winning mentality.'

Shevchenko, the 2004 European footballer of the year, was critical of the match officials after having a first half goal disallowed for a marginal offside decision.

He added: 'The referee made a mistake.

'I knew that my goal wasn't offside there and then because it's one of those classical plays that I always practise.

'I always look at the defensive line and I wait for the last pass from the midfield to make sure that I'm not in an offside position.'

The final appeared to be over at half-time after a Hernan Crespo double and a first-minute strike from captain Paolo Maldini gave the Rossoneri a commanding lead.

But the match changed in six dramatic minutes before the hour mark as Steven Gerrard, Vladimir Smicer and Xabi Alonso got the Merseysiders back on level terms.

'It's true that in those five or six minutes we were distracted,' said Shevchenko. 'But you never expect such an outcome.

'To Liverpool's credit they played very good football and scored three goals.'

The Rossoneri players wore stunned expressions at the final whistle but it is not the first time they have collapsed in such a manner.

In last season's Champions League quarter-final they held a 4-1 first leg advantage against Deportivo La Coruna only to lose the return 4-0 at the Riazor.

And they almost threw away their place in this year's final against PSV Eindhoven, squandering a 2-0 first leg lead, only for Massimo Ambrosini's last-gasp header to secure their place against Liverpool.

Past disappointments are nothing compared to the anguish felt on Wednesday, however.

'It's very painful,' said Shevchenko. 'But we must accept it.

'I don't think we underestimated Liverpool and I'm not surprised at how they played.

'This team knocked Juventus and Chelsea out of the competition and they did what they had to do to win.'

Shevchenko's penalty heartbreak was in stark contrast to his joy at netting the winning spot-kick as Milan beat Juventus in the 2003 final at Old Trafford.

'Penalties are cruel,' he admitted.

'There's only one winner and this time we were the ones to be at the other end.

'But (Liverpool keeper Jerzy) Dudek was outstanding throughout the game and he did well not only to save my penalty but to deny us the victory twice in extra-time.'

Shevchenko is a class act

Aid


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:59:12 +0100 (BST)
From: Jerzy Dudek goalkeeping legend <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Now whats going to happen

After the incredible night in Istanbul, its now a question of whether Liverpool will be allowed to defend the trophy next season. The final decision on this will be made on June 17th in ironically, Manchester.

Now back in 2001, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga and won the European Cup. They were allowed to defend it. It would be a absolute disagree if Liverpool are not allowed to defend the trophy.

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:01:04 -0000
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Nick, what u done now ??

Bloody hell :))

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
<the_13th_redneck@y...> wrote:
> Darth Vader shows his dark side
>
> Police in Malaysia are hunting a man who flashes women while
wearing a
> Darth Vader costume.
>
> The Star Wars flasher exposed himself to women factory workers in
two
> industrial areas of Bandar Baru Nilai.
>
> Priscilla, 33, a factory supervisor, said the man got out of his
car,
> strutted about menacingly in his Darth Vader suit before flashing
to
> 15 women workers standing at a bus stop at 7am.
>
> "At first, I thought he was a die-hard Star Wars fan trying to
impress
> us with his costume. But we were shocked when he showed us his
private
> parts," she told Malaysia's Star newspaper.
>
> The women were waiting for buses to take them home after their
night
> shift.
>
> When some of the women screamed, he jumped into his car and drove
off.
>
> "Next time it will not be Revenge of the Sith but revenge on a sick
> man if we catch him doing his act again," Priscilla added.
>
> The flasher was reported to have displayed himself to another
group of
> workers at a second factory nearby.
>
> **********************************************
>
> Nick has gone too far this time :))

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:28 -0000
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Gerrard's Cup Fetish

Don't be surprised if he found out that sleeping with the trophy is
better than sleeping with a woman ;)

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
<the_13th_redneck@y...> wrote:
> Gerrard slept with cup
>
> Steven Gerrard has revealed his slept with the European Cup.
>
> He said: "I slept with the trophy in my room.
>
> "I did not want to let it out of my sight. When someone took it away
> from me it felt as though somehow I had lost a part of me."
>
> He made the confession as the Liverpool team were welcomed home by
> thousands of fans reports The Sun.
>
> *********************************************
>
> Strange lad:))

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:26 -0000
From: "baros_the_number_1_milan" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Liverpool are European champions

Indeed :D

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
<the_13th_redneck@y...> wrote:
> Yes, a day when Italian smiles are wiped right off their faces...
like
> the Euro 2000 final :))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> <manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, whatever happens they just wrote a page in the history
books,
> > one that will never be forgotten. WHAT A GAME!!!!! In days like
these,
> > football apears in all it's beauty.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > > Fuck knows how they did it when they looked dead and buried at
3-0
> > > down but all credit goes to them for coming back and winning on
> > > penalties. Will they be allowed to defend their trophy now?
> > >
> > > Nick

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:08:06 -0000
From: "jerzy_dudek_goalkeeping_legend" <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Liverpool are European champions

Exactly :)

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
<manuelgon_1999@y...> wrote:
>
> Well, whatever happens they just wrote a page in the history books,
> one that will never be forgotten. WHAT A GAME!!!!! In days like
these,
> football apears in all it's beauty.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> <n_i_c_k_17@y...> wrote:
> > Fuck knows how they did it when they looked dead and buried at 3-0
> > down but all credit goes to them for coming back and winning on
> > penalties. Will they be allowed to defend their trophy now?
> >
> > Nick

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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:18:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Sir Rafa Benitez <adrianbagley27@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Liverpool get backing from other clubs

Pressure has increased on UEFA to include Liverpool in the Champions League next season after G14, the grouping of elite European clubs, called for the Reds to be allowed to defend their trophy.

')}//-->G14 was the body that forced UEFA to expand the Champions League in 1998 by threatening to set up a breakaway competition and now they have thrown their weight behind Liverpool, one of their founder members.

A G14 spokesman said: 'We support the desire to see Liverpool defend their trophy and the matter will be raised at our management board meeting next month.

'We believe UEFA should look at ways of allowing this to happen.'

The organisation is made up of 18 powerful clubs including Real Madrid, AC Milan and Bayern Munich - as well as Manchester United and Arsenal - and a formal approach will be made to UEFA after the G14 meeting in Amsterdam on June 9.

Meanwhile, the FA's chairman Geoff Thompson, who is also a UEFA vice-president, has continued lobbying for there to be five English clubs in the Champions League so Liverpool can defend their crown.

His main argument is that nearly all the 52 UEFA member countries would be given an extra place in the Champions League in similar circumstances - apart from England, Spain and Italy because they are already allowed four teams in the competition.

The FA believe that is an inconsistency in the regulations and that even if UEFA are not convinced on this occasion they should change the rules for the future.

Thompson said: 'We are working extremely hard to try to secure the extra place for Liverpool.

'Our basic concern is to ensure that all 52 countries have the same opportunity. There is an additional place guaranteed should the champions come from 49 countries in Europe but not for the other three - England, Italy and Spain.

'We are saying that there should be a level playing field and that every country should have the same opportunity.'

Liverpool will have to wait three weeks before they will know one way or another - the issue will be decided by UEFA's 15-man executive committee at their meeting in Manchester on June 17.

There is some hope for Liverpool because UEFA president Lennart Johansson is understood to be broadly supportive, and his influence is extremely important though not necessarily decisive.

Mario Lefkaritis, a Cypriot member of UEFA's executive committee, said he would approach the meeting with an open mind.

He said: 'It is very dangerous to pre-judge anything. If the issue is raised in Manchester we have to listen to all sides and then make a decision.'

Like I said in a previous post, it would be an absolute disgrace if we were not allowed to defend the trophy.

Aid


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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:18:31 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What a night :D

I watched a rerun last night. Superb. Absolutely superb. I wonder
if the Italians are crying about the referee being Spanish.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Stevie Mr Liverpool Gerrard
<adrianbagley27@y...> wrote:
>
> Its Wednesday, its 7:40pm British time and I was at home, in my
bedroom with my TV on, getting ready to watch the 50th European Cup
final between Liverpool (Who I wanted to win) and AC Milan. I wished I
was over there in Istanbul (The Liverpool fans in the stadium easily
outnumbered the AC Milan fans) to watch the match but even though I
wasn't there, I was looking forward to watching probably the biggest
match that I've ever seen. At 7:45pm, the match started. However,
Liverpool could not have made a worse start. The left back Djimi
Traore made a very shaky start (He went on to have a nightmare 1st
half) and conceded a freekick. From that freekick, the ball was played
across to the edge of the box to Milan's 37 year old left back Paolo
Maldini and he hit a first time shot into the ground, past the
goalkeeper Jerzy Dudek and into the net. 1-0 to AC Milan inside a
minute. Things looked worse when Milan striker Shevchenko thought he
scored Milan's 2nd goal but it was ruled out for
> offside. I was relieved but it was only temporary. Liverpool should
have had penalty when the ball hit the elbow of one of Milan's
defender and from there, Milan went up the other end and made it 2-0
thanks to their Argentinian striker Hernan Crespo. Things surely
couldn't get worse in the 1st half. It did. A great pass from their
Brazilian playmaker Kaka send Crespo through and he finished superbly.
So at halftime, it was AC Milan 3 Liverpool 0. The way it was going,
the final score would have been 6-0 and that would have been total
humilation. Yet, I was not totally 100% convinced that it was all
over. I was thinking about the times when Liverpool came back from 3-0
down (In a league match at Anfield against Manchester United in the
early 1990s and in a match in Switzerland against Basel a few years
ago in the same competition that Liverpool wanted to win last night)
even though I was shellshocked after watching the 1st half.
> So when the 2nd half began, Liverpool needed to score the next goal
to have any chance. But incredibly, in the space of 6 to 7 2nd half
minutes, Liverpool didn't just score once, they scored 3 times. 3-0
had become 3-3. First, the insparational captain Steven Gerrard headed
home a John Arne Riise cross to make it 3-1. After that goal, he got
the other players and the fans believing that they could still do it.
About 2 minutes later, Vladimir Smicer hit a 20 yard shot which
striker Milan Baros did brilliantly not to get in the way and the
Milan keeper Dida only managed to knock the ball into the net. It was
now 3-2 and it was game on again. And then Gerrard burst into the box
and was brought down from the behind, the referee gave a penalty. Up
stepped Xabi Alonso but Dida saved the penalty but Alonso followed up
and smashed the rebound into the roof of the net. Incredibly, it was
now 3-3. From there, I thought that there was only 1 team (Liverpool)
who was going to win it in 90
> minutes. But the 4th goal didn't come so the match went into extra
time. In the 2 15 minute periods, Liverpool played for penalties and I
didn't blame them. However, it nearly backfired on them in the most
dramtic fashion. Near the end of extra time, Shevchenko had a header
saved by Dudek and from the rebound, it looked easy for Shevchenko
just to knock it in. But amazingly, he smashed the ball straight at
Dudek and it somehow ended up going over the bar. So with extra time
over and the final score 3-3, it was time for penalties.
> When Milan missed their first 2 penalties and Liverpool scored their
first 2, Liverpool were in control. Milan scored their 3rd penalty to
make it 1-2. But then, Riise missed Liverpool's 3rd kick of the
penalty shootout (To be fair, it was a brilliant save by Dida). After
that, I thought "Please, don't let that be the turning point". Then
Milan scored their 4th kick and Liverpool scored their 4th kick and
Liverpool were 3-2 up on penalties. So up stepped Shevchenko (The best
striker in the world) to take Milan's 5th kick. Now I expected him to
score. So he ran up, kicked the ball and Dudek actually saved it. With
that save, Liverpool were crowned champions of Europe for the 5th
time. 1 thing to note about Dudek in the penalty shootout was that he
didn't just make the saves, he was also moving about on his goaline,
waving his arms about and wobbling his legs. The things he was doing
was amazing and it worked. All the Liverpool players ran over to Dudek
and congratulated him because it
> was he who was the hero. The celebrations were great. And when
Steven Gerrard lifted the trophy above his head, what a moment that
was. What happened over there in Istanbul made me proud to have
Liverpool as my favourite team and proud to be an Englishman. What a
night
>
> Aid
>
>
>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:20:48 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Shevchenko praises Liverpool

Don't blame the ref Sheva... but otherwise he had a pretty good game.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Baros the number 1 Milan
<adrianbagley27@y...> wrote:
> Andriy Shevchenko believes Liverpool were destined to claim the
Champions League but still praised their 'winning mentality'.
>
> The AC Milan striker, who missed the decisive penalty in the
shoot-out after a pulsating 3-3 draw in Istanbul, was impressed at the
way Rafael Benitez's men hit back to take the game into extra-time
after being 3-0 down at the interval.
>
> He told PA International: 'It's very hard to explain.
>
> 'But I think it was destiny that decided to change sides and give
the cup to Liverpool.
>
> 'With a 3-0 advantage it's difficult to think that any team can come
back against Milan.
>
> 'But Liverpool found the courage to continue.
>
>
> 'Believe me, it's not easy when you are 3-0 down.
>
>
> 'They never lost hope, they believed right until the end that it was
possible and I guess that is the winning mentality.'
>
>
> Shevchenko, the 2004 European footballer of the year, was critical
of the match officials after having a first half goal disallowed for a
marginal offside decision.
>
>
> He added: 'The referee made a mistake.
>
>
> 'I knew that my goal wasn't offside there and then because it's one
of those classical plays that I always practise.
>
>
> 'I always look at the defensive line and I wait for the last pass
from the midfield to make sure that I'm not in an offside position.'
>
>
> The final appeared to be over at half-time after a Hernan Crespo
double and a first-minute strike from captain Paolo Maldini gave the
Rossoneri a commanding lead.
>
>
> But the match changed in six dramatic minutes before the hour mark
as Steven Gerrard, Vladimir Smicer and Xabi Alonso got the
Merseysiders back on level terms.
>
>
> 'It's true that in those five or six minutes we were distracted,'
said Shevchenko. 'But you never expect such an outcome.
>
>
> 'To Liverpool's credit they played very good football and scored
three goals.'
>
>
> The Rossoneri players wore stunned expressions at the final whistle
but it is not the first time they have collapsed in such a manner.
>
>
> In last season's Champions League quarter-final they held a 4-1
first leg advantage against Deportivo La Coruna only to lose the
return 4-0 at the Riazor.
>
>
> And they almost threw away their place in this year's final against
PSV Eindhoven, squandering a 2-0 first leg lead, only for Massimo
Ambrosini's last-gasp header to secure their place against Liverpool.
>
>
> Past disappointments are nothing compared to the anguish felt on
Wednesday, however.
>
>
> 'It's very painful,' said Shevchenko. 'But we must accept it.
>
>
> 'I don't think we underestimated Liverpool and I'm not surprised at
how they played.
>
>
> 'This team knocked Juventus and Chelsea out of the competition and
they did what they had to do to win.'
>
>
> Shevchenko's penalty heartbreak was in stark contrast to his joy at
netting the winning spot-kick as Milan beat Juventus in the 2003 final
at Old Trafford.
>
>
> 'Penalties are cruel,' he admitted.
>
>
> 'There's only one winner and this time we were the ones to be at the
other end.
>
>
> 'But (Liverpool keeper Jerzy) Dudek was outstanding throughout the
game and he did well not only to save my penalty but to deny us the
victory twice in extra-time.'
>
> Shevchenko is a class act
>
> Aid
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:21:52 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Now whats going to happen

The Champions should be given automatic qualification. There is no
issue about the "qualifiers" thing with the World Cup. This happens
every season. It would be criminal to not let Liverpool defend it.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Jerzy Dudek goalkeeping
legend <adrianbagley27@y...> wrote:
> After the incredible night in Istanbul, its now a question of
whether Liverpool will be allowed to defend the trophy next season.
The final decision on this will be made on June 17th in ironically,
Manchester.
>
> Now back in 2001, Real Madrid finished 5th in La Liga and won the
European Cup. They were allowed to defend it. It would be a absolute
disagree if Liverpool are not allowed to defend the trophy.
>
> Aid
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:22:51 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!" <the_13th_redneck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Gerrard's Cup Fetish

Good season for Gerrard really. Chelsea were all snobbish about
turning him down and he just went on to win the European Cup without
them lol.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "baros_the_number_1_milan"
<adrianbagley27@y...> wrote:
> Don't be surprised if he found out that sleeping with the trophy is
> better than sleeping with a woman ;)
>
> Aid
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
> <the_13th_redneck@y...> wrote:
> > Gerrard slept with cup
> >
> > Steven Gerrard has revealed his slept with the European Cup.
> >
> > He said: "I slept with the trophy in my room.
> >
> > "I did not want to let it out of my sight. When someone took it away
> > from me it felt as though somehow I had lost a part of me."
> >
> > He made the confession as the Liverpool team were welcomed home by
> > thousands of fans reports The Sun.
> >
> > *********************************************
> >
> > Strange lad:))

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