Wednesday, May 04, 2005

[World Soccer Club] Digest Number 1473

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "Manuel"
2. Re: Do you really want a piece of that?
From: "Manuel"
3. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
4. Re: Do you really want a piece of that?
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
5. Re: Mourinho eyes exclusive club
From: "jer_vanlint"
6. Re: Brugge on the brink
From: "jer_vanlint"
7. Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0
From: Adrian Bagley
8. Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night
From: Adrian Bagley
9. Re: Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0
From: "Adrian Bagley"
10. Benitez: We can win it
From: Adrian Bagley
11. New file uploaded to worldsoccerclub2
From: worldsoccerclub2
12. New file uploaded to worldsoccerclub2
From: worldsoccerclub2
13. The clip
From: Adrian Bagley
14. Welcome ppungdj
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
15. Re: Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
16. Re: Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
17. Re: Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night
From: "Adrian Bagley"
18. Re: Welcome ppungdj
From: "Adrian Bagley"

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:54:12 -0000
From: "Manuel"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

http://www.london-independents.com/escorts_gallery.html

LOL!!!

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> I could use a blow job about now to end my misery.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> wrote:
> >
> > You were all at the match? Dale, we need the blow by blow
account!
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
> > wrote:
> > > yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a
sniff
> > of
> > > getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th
then
> > > villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th
to
> > get
> > > above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season
and
> > good
> > > job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the
> match
> > > and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck up
to
> > > charlton later tho!
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> > > wrote:
> > > > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> > > >
> > > > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive
> with
> > a
> > > 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> > > >
> > > > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with
Mali
> > > striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
> > Ledley
> > > King's 18th-minute effort.
> > > >
> > > > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-
> kick
> > in
> > > the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> > > stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and
> Stephen
> > > Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a
fifth
> in
> > > the last minute.
> > > >
> > > > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the first
two
> > > minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the
right
> and
> > > planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
> > away.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an
> early
> > > save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot
drive
> > that
> > > the England man did well to save low to his right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the
fifth
> > > minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside
the
> > box,
> > > but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
> > taking
> > > the lead.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high
towards
> > > Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam
Ridgewell
> > and
> > > fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury
of
> the
> > > Villa players.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> > > Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he
chased
> > the
> > > official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his
> protest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes
> alive,
> > > were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left
on
> the
> > > bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie
Keane in
> > > attack.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper
King.
> > > Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded
off
> > > Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
> > advantage of
> > > the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post
> when
> > the
> > > former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in
the
> > 26th
> > > minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute
and
> the
> > > Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into the
top
> > > corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when Michael
> > Dawson
> > > was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick
powerfully
> > > down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the
deficit
> > still
> > > further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and
forced
> > > Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they
collided
> > > inside the penalty area and both players required treatment
before
> > > they could continue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> > > substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek
Cerny.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in
the
> > > collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped
> around
> > > the perimeter of the pitch.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach
with
> a
> > > tremendous 25-yard strike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence backed
> off,
> > > Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned into
> the
> > net
> > > off the underside of the crossbar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe
and
> > > Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for
Kanoute
> > and
> > > Keane.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute
when
> > > Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
> > crossbar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from
time
> > as
> > > Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> > > >
> > > > Well, this was a close match
> > > >
> > > > Aid
> > > >
> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:57:43 -0000
From: "Manuel"
Subject: Re: Do you really want a piece of that?

Nothing like playing against Samoa...LOL

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> Australia begs to differ :))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> wrote:
> >
> > In no other region do you have to play at least two world cup
> > champions (if you are not Brazil Argentina or Uruguay, you face
3).
> > In no toehr region do you have to play in the same group in
places
> > like Buenos Aires, Rio, Montevideo and La Paz. In no other
region
> > do you face such plane rides. I agree, this is the toughest
region.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Juan Arango says the South American WC Qualifiers are the
hardest
> > in
> > > the world. Bar none. "Why?" you might ask? Well that's what I
am
> > here
> > > for, says Juan...
> > >
> > > After talking to several people during a South Beach getaway,
I
> > came
> > > back seeing where the football world really had their eyes on.
I
> > > decided to stop at a local bar to catch up on some notes for
this
> > > week's show, that along with a nice cold beer.
> > >
> > > The people in the bar were talking about how Italy and the
Dutch
> > had
> > > a tough time in their groups. Boy that made my head snap
around.
> > > These are the same types of individuals who believe that if
the
> > > team's colors weren't azzura or rossoneri, that it is not
calcio,
> > it
> > > is just a bunch of Neanderthals kicking a "round thing". I
heard
> > how
> > > Spain's group is so complicated, and their chance to qualify
> looks
> > > bleak, I could not believe what I was hearing. The kicker was
> when
> > an
> > > alleged football fan said Europe is the toughest World Cup
> > qualifying
> > > region in the world. I hear statements that European national
> > teams
> > > have the toughest schedules of all, because of their travel
> > > schedules. That jetlag was a defining factor for many players
to
> > not
> > > want to play on their national team. Europeans have too many
> games
> > to
> > > play in addition to their national team duties. The fact that
> > > Amsterdam ArenA is one of the most intimidating venues in all
of
> > > Europe? On and on and on it went. I was crazy hearing about
> > > the "suffering" that European national team players
> > > endure. "WHAT!!!!" I was asphyxiating from the verbal diarrhea
> > being
> > > deluged that evening. So I did what every other sane person
would
> > do -
> > > walk out in complete disgust.
> > >
> > > No, I am not denigrating the football player. It is a hard
> > profession
> > > that most fans do not appreciate fully. What I do not
appreciate
> > is
> > > the fact that these individuals do not give importance to the
> > South
> > > American qualifiers. Quite the opposite, based on these
> qualifiers
> > > the Milans and Real Madrids of the world are able to reload
> > talent.
> > > These players, the South Americans (along with any other
player
> > that
> > > has to travel long distances to play for their national team)
> have
> > it
> > > hard. This is why the CONMEBOL qualifying tournament is so
> > gruelling
> > > and yet so intense.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Jetlag.
> > > The definition given by Webster's dictionary is "A temporary
> > > disruption of bodily rhythms caused by high-speed travel
across
> > > several time zones typically in a jet aircraft." Take a 9-10
hour
> > > flight, fly through 5-7 time zones; after that go practice
with a
> > > team and play 48 hours after that flight. Then when your duty
is
> > > done, make the same trek back to your club and play the
following
> > > weekend. In Europe, the longest flight would be 4-5 hours,
tops.
> > As
> > > much as I have traveled in my life, I never heard of people
> > > complaining of jetlag after a flight from Madrid to Rome.
> > >
> > > 2. Acclimatisation.
> > > Paraguay took 10 days to acclimatise to the conditions that
they
> > were
> > > going to face when they played in La Paz, Bolivia. Playing a
club
> > > match, let's forget about a World Cup Qualifier, at 3700
meters
> > > (12,139 feet) above sea level is a daunting task for any
> > footballer.
> > > Not only that, based on the way the CONMEBOL has their
qualifying
> > set
> > > up, they have to play 48-72 hours later. That takes a toll on
a
> > body,
> > > regardless of physical condition.
> > > This is what makes it more complicated to get through for a
> > player.
> > > The back-to-back part of it is what makes this qualifier so
> > > interesting and unique at the same time. Teams might have to
play
> > in
> > > La Paz, Quito or Lima (the three high altitude venues) on a
> > Saturday
> > > night and then go to Barranquilla. This is a venue that offers
> > > suffocating on-field temperatures that can reach up to 44-45
> > degrees
> > > Celsius (that is 112-114 degrees Fahrenheit for my American
> > readers).
> > > This is the reason why the Cafeteros made Barranquilla their
home
> > > once again for the qualifiers, after an unsuccessful stint in
> > Bogotá.
> > > What if you were to play in any city in Brazil? Asunción is
the
> > same
> > > story; just add the stifling humidity that the Guaraní capital
> > > inflicts upon any visitor.
> > > Having to play a game in sizzling Maracaibo or Barranquilla in
> > July
> > > or August is not the same as playing in Buenos Aires. One
reason
> > is
> > > that in the northern countries, they are experiencing aphelion
> > while
> > > in the Southern cone they are at the peak of winter solstice.
> Well
> > > enough with my geography lesson. The point is that there are
> > several
> > > climates that footballers have to prepare for in a short
period
> of
> > > time in order to play for their national team.
> > >
> > > 3. Parity.
> > > In this World Cup region, every team is still mathematically
> alive
> > > for the last three spots (the last spot would be a playoff
> against
> > > Australia), with eleven games played. In Europe, most regions
are
> > > already defined, or at least there is a good idea as to who is
in
> > and
> > > who is getting ready for 2010. In the CONCACAF region, there
is
> an
> > > idea as to who will move on and who will be that team that
will
> > play
> > > the fourth Asian squad. Obviously, in the top two spots, there
> are
> > no
> > > doubts as to which teams belong there.
> > >
> > > 4. Duration.
> > > No qualifiers last longer than the ones in South America. They
> > > started in November 2003 and will end November 2005. If you
can
> > tell
> > > me that a team can maintain a particular level of continuity
> > during
> > > this entire period of time, then there is no need for me to
> > continue.
> > > Even Brazil and Argentina have their blips and there is
nothing
> > that
> > > a national team coach can do. The advantage for a few clubs is
> > that
> > > they can always be in it, they are not really out of it.
> > >
> > > 5. Continuity.
> > > In this tournament there is a great deal.
> > >
> > > 6. Hunger.
> > > Remember that this is the stepping stone to reaching the Big
> Show.
> > > Many of these qualifiers make or break your career on the
> > > international level. The CONMEBOL qualifiers are what help
> several
> > > players trampoline across the Atlantic for their huge payday.
Is
> > > there a hunger? Oh yeah!
> > >
> > > 7. Rivalries.
> > > Some of the greatest rivalries of all-time are in this region.
> > Let's
> > > Start with the more traditional ones:
> > >
> > > a. Brazil- Argentina:
> > > Probably the biggest rivalry in International football right
now.
> > > They are the apex of the footballing world right now. If they
> were
> > in
> > > Europe, they could qualify in ANY group there. Who can forget
the
> > > memorable game in the 1990 World Cup, where Maradona snatched
> > victory
> > > from the jaws of defeat. How about more recently, when
Adriano's
> > game-
> > > tying goal in the waning seconds of regulation led to a
Scratch
> > > victory in the 2004 Copa America (aka The Adriano Coming Out
> > Party).
> > >
> > > b. Uruguay- Argentina:
> > > The oldest rivalry in football history. A history that
> encompasses
> > > over a century of memories. The "River Plate" derby has been
> > played a
> > > total of 190 times. The Albicelestes have won 86 times to the
> > > Charruas 57, and have drawn a total of 47 times. Who can ever
> > forget
> > > the 1986 World Cup when Diego Maradona faced off against Enzo
> > > Francescoli, or the Uruguayan 2-0 victory over the Argentines
in
> > the
> > > 1989 Copa America.
> > >
> > > c. Brazil- Uruguay:
> > > Although many of us didn't even exist then, the most memorable
> > game
> > > in this rivalry was the 2-1 Charrua victory over the
> verdeamarelha
> > at
> > > the Maracaná in the finals of the 1950 World Cup.
> > >
> > > d. Chile- Peru:
> > > A rivalry that transcends the football pitch and does so in
issue
> > > that has come from wars to political maneuverings.
> > >
> > > e. Colombia- Venezuela:
> > > This is what many people in the know consider the newest
rivalry
> > in
> > > the South American continent? More based on sociopolitical
strife
> > > than football parity, times are changing as Venezuela has not
> lost
> > to
> > > the Cafeteros in their past three matches.
> > >
> > >
> > > So what FIFA tried to do a few years back to take away a spot
> from
> > > this region was preposterous. What many do by belittling the
> > > Herculean effort that needs to be made in order to have a
player
> > lead
> > > his respective team to the Promised Land. So if any European
> teams
> > > would like to switch qualifying regions, there are ten teams
that
> > > would love to take your offer up.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:28:40 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

Will check it out as soon as the bird next to me leaves!!!

--

- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> http://www.london-independents.com/escorts_gallery.html
>
> LOL!!!
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
> wrote:
> > I could use a blow job about now to end my misery.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You were all at the match? Dale, we need the blow by blow
> account!
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
> > > wrote:
> > > > yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a
> sniff
> > > of
> > > > getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th
> then
> > > > villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th
> to
> > > get
> > > > above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season
> and
> > > good
> > > > job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the
> > match
> > > > and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck
up
> to
> > > > charlton later tho!
> > > >
> > > > nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> > > > >
> > > > > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive
> > with
> > > a
> > > > 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with
> Mali
> > > > striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
> > > Ledley
> > > > King's 18th-minute effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-
> > kick
> > > in
> > > > the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> > > > stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and
> > Stephen
> > > > Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a
> fifth
> > in
> > > > the last minute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the
first
> two
> > > > minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the
> right
> > and
> > > > planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
> > > away.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an
> > early
> > > > save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot
> drive
> > > that
> > > > the England man did well to save low to his right.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the
> fifth
> > > > minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside
> the
> > > box,
> > > > but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
> > > taking
> > > > the lead.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high
> towards
> > > > Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam
> Ridgewell
> > > and
> > > > fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury
> of
> > the
> > > > Villa players.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> > > > Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he
> chased
> > > the
> > > > official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his
> > protest.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes
> > alive,
> > > > were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left
> on
> > the
> > > > bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie
> Keane in
> > > > attack.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper
> King.
> > > > Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded
> off
> > > > Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
> > > advantage of
> > > > the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post
> > when
> > > the
> > > > former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in
> the
> > > 26th
> > > > minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute
> and
> > the
> > > > Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into
the
> top
> > > > corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when
Michael
> > > Dawson
> > > > was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick
> powerfully
> > > > down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the
> deficit
> > > still
> > > > further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and
> forced
> > > > Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they
> collided
> > > > inside the penalty area and both players required treatment
> before
> > > > they could continue.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> > > > substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek
> Cerny.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in
> the
> > > > collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped
> > around
> > > > the perimeter of the pitch.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach
> with
> > a
> > > > tremendous 25-yard strike.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence
backed
> > off,
> > > > Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned
into
> > the
> > > net
> > > > off the underside of the crossbar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe
> and
> > > > Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for
> Kanoute
> > > and
> > > > Keane.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute
> when
> > > > Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
> > > crossbar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from
> time
> > > as
> > > > Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, this was a close match
> > > > >
> > > > > Aid
> > > > >
> > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:29:42 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Do you really want a piece of that?

The Samoans have a proud warrior tradition and the thousands of years
of struggle, conflict and warfare against boredom and laziness shows
on the pitch :))

-

-- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> Nothing like playing against Samoa...LOL
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
> wrote:
> > Australia begs to differ :))
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > In no other region do you have to play at least two world cup
> > > champions (if you are not Brazil Argentina or Uruguay, you face
> 3).
> > > In no toehr region do you have to play in the same group in
> places
> > > like Buenos Aires, Rio, Montevideo and La Paz. In no other
> region
> > > do you face such plane rides. I agree, this is the toughest
> region.
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Juan Arango says the South American WC Qualifiers are the
> hardest
> > > in
> > > > the world. Bar none. "Why?" you might ask? Well that's what I
> am
> > > here
> > > > for, says Juan...
> > > >
> > > > After talking to several people during a South Beach getaway,
> I
> > > came
> > > > back seeing where the football world really had their eyes
on.
> I
> > > > decided to stop at a local bar to catch up on some notes for
> this
> > > > week's show, that along with a nice cold beer.
> > > >
> > > > The people in the bar were talking about how Italy and the
> Dutch
> > > had
> > > > a tough time in their groups. Boy that made my head snap
> around.
> > > > These are the same types of individuals who believe that if
> the
> > > > team's colors weren't azzura or rossoneri, that it is not
> calcio,
> > > it
> > > > is just a bunch of Neanderthals kicking a "round thing". I
> heard
> > > how
> > > > Spain's group is so complicated, and their chance to qualify
> > looks
> > > > bleak, I could not believe what I was hearing. The kicker was
> > when
> > > an
> > > > alleged football fan said Europe is the toughest World Cup
> > > qualifying
> > > > region in the world. I hear statements that European national
> > > teams
> > > > have the toughest schedules of all, because of their travel
> > > > schedules. That jetlag was a defining factor for many players
> to
> > > not
> > > > want to play on their national team. Europeans have too many
> > games
> > > to
> > > > play in addition to their national team duties. The fact that
> > > > Amsterdam ArenA is one of the most intimidating venues in all
> of
> > > > Europe? On and on and on it went. I was crazy hearing about
> > > > the "suffering" that European national team players
> > > > endure. "WHAT!!!!" I was asphyxiating from the verbal
diarrhea
> > > being
> > > > deluged that evening. So I did what every other sane person
> would
> > > do -
> > > > walk out in complete disgust.
> > > >
> > > > No, I am not denigrating the football player. It is a hard
> > > profession
> > > > that most fans do not appreciate fully. What I do not
> appreciate
> > > is
> > > > the fact that these individuals do not give importance to the
> > > South
> > > > American qualifiers. Quite the opposite, based on these
> > qualifiers
> > > > the Milans and Real Madrids of the world are able to reload
> > > talent.
> > > > These players, the South Americans (along with any other
> player
> > > that
> > > > has to travel long distances to play for their national team)
> > have
> > > it
> > > > hard. This is why the CONMEBOL qualifying tournament is so
> > > gruelling
> > > > and yet so intense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Jetlag.
> > > > The definition given by Webster's dictionary is "A temporary
> > > > disruption of bodily rhythms caused by high-speed travel
> across
> > > > several time zones typically in a jet aircraft." Take a 9-10
> hour
> > > > flight, fly through 5-7 time zones; after that go practice
> with a
> > > > team and play 48 hours after that flight. Then when your duty
> is
> > > > done, make the same trek back to your club and play the
> following
> > > > weekend. In Europe, the longest flight would be 4-5 hours,
> tops.
> > > As
> > > > much as I have traveled in my life, I never heard of people
> > > > complaining of jetlag after a flight from Madrid to Rome.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Acclimatisation.
> > > > Paraguay took 10 days to acclimatise to the conditions that
> they
> > > were
> > > > going to face when they played in La Paz, Bolivia. Playing a
> club
> > > > match, let's forget about a World Cup Qualifier, at 3700
> meters
> > > > (12,139 feet) above sea level is a daunting task for any
> > > footballer.
> > > > Not only that, based on the way the CONMEBOL has their
> qualifying
> > > set
> > > > up, they have to play 48-72 hours later. That takes a toll on
> a
> > > body,
> > > > regardless of physical condition.
> > > > This is what makes it more complicated to get through for a
> > > player.
> > > > The back-to-back part of it is what makes this qualifier so
> > > > interesting and unique at the same time. Teams might have to
> play
> > > in
> > > > La Paz, Quito or Lima (the three high altitude venues) on a
> > > Saturday
> > > > night and then go to Barranquilla. This is a venue that
offers
> > > > suffocating on-field temperatures that can reach up to 44-45
> > > degrees
> > > > Celsius (that is 112-114 degrees Fahrenheit for my American
> > > readers).
> > > > This is the reason why the Cafeteros made Barranquilla their
> home
> > > > once again for the qualifiers, after an unsuccessful stint in
> > > Bogotá.
> > > > What if you were to play in any city in Brazil? Asunción is
> the
> > > same
> > > > story; just add the stifling humidity that the Guaraní
capital
> > > > inflicts upon any visitor.
> > > > Having to play a game in sizzling Maracaibo or Barranquilla
in
> > > July
> > > > or August is not the same as playing in Buenos Aires. One
> reason
> > > is
> > > > that in the northern countries, they are experiencing
aphelion
> > > while
> > > > in the Southern cone they are at the peak of winter solstice.
> > Well
> > > > enough with my geography lesson. The point is that there are
> > > several
> > > > climates that footballers have to prepare for in a short
> period
> > of
> > > > time in order to play for their national team.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Parity.
> > > > In this World Cup region, every team is still mathematically
> > alive
> > > > for the last three spots (the last spot would be a playoff
> > against
> > > > Australia), with eleven games played. In Europe, most regions
> are
> > > > already defined, or at least there is a good idea as to who
is
> in
> > > and
> > > > who is getting ready for 2010. In the CONCACAF region, there
> is
> > an
> > > > idea as to who will move on and who will be that team that
> will
> > > play
> > > > the fourth Asian squad. Obviously, in the top two spots,
there
> > are
> > > no
> > > > doubts as to which teams belong there.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Duration.
> > > > No qualifiers last longer than the ones in South America.
They
> > > > started in November 2003 and will end November 2005. If you
> can
> > > tell
> > > > me that a team can maintain a particular level of continuity
> > > during
> > > > this entire period of time, then there is no need for me to
> > > continue.
> > > > Even Brazil and Argentina have their blips and there is
> nothing
> > > that
> > > > a national team coach can do. The advantage for a few clubs
is
> > > that
> > > > they can always be in it, they are not really out of it.
> > > >
> > > > 5. Continuity.
> > > > In this tournament there is a great deal.
> > > >
> > > > 6. Hunger.
> > > > Remember that this is the stepping stone to reaching the Big
> > Show.
> > > > Many of these qualifiers make or break your career on the
> > > > international level. The CONMEBOL qualifiers are what help
> > several
> > > > players trampoline across the Atlantic for their huge payday.
> Is
> > > > there a hunger? Oh yeah!
> > > >
> > > > 7. Rivalries.
> > > > Some of the greatest rivalries of all-time are in this
region.
> > > Let's
> > > > Start with the more traditional ones:
> > > >
> > > > a. Brazil- Argentina:
> > > > Probably the biggest rivalry in International football right
> now.
> > > > They are the apex of the footballing world right now. If they
> > were
> > > in
> > > > Europe, they could qualify in ANY group there. Who can forget
> the
> > > > memorable game in the 1990 World Cup, where Maradona snatched
> > > victory
> > > > from the jaws of defeat. How about more recently, when
> Adriano's
> > > game-
> > > > tying goal in the waning seconds of regulation led to a
> Scratch
> > > > victory in the 2004 Copa America (aka The Adriano Coming Out
> > > Party).
> > > >
> > > > b. Uruguay- Argentina:
> > > > The oldest rivalry in football history. A history that
> > encompasses
> > > > over a century of memories. The "River Plate" derby has been
> > > played a
> > > > total of 190 times. The Albicelestes have won 86 times to the
> > > > Charruas 57, and have drawn a total of 47 times. Who can ever
> > > forget
> > > > the 1986 World Cup when Diego Maradona faced off against Enzo
> > > > Francescoli, or the Uruguayan 2-0 victory over the Argentines
> in
> > > the
> > > > 1989 Copa America.
> > > >
> > > > c. Brazil- Uruguay:
> > > > Although many of us didn't even exist then, the most
memorable
> > > game
> > > > in this rivalry was the 2-1 Charrua victory over the
> > verdeamarelha
> > > at
> > > > the Maracaná in the finals of the 1950 World Cup.
> > > >
> > > > d. Chile- Peru:
> > > > A rivalry that transcends the football pitch and does so in
> issue
> > > > that has come from wars to political maneuverings.
> > > >
> > > > e. Colombia- Venezuela:
> > > > This is what many people in the know consider the newest
> rivalry
> > > in
> > > > the South American continent? More based on sociopolitical
> strife
> > > > than football parity, times are changing as Venezuela has not
> > lost
> > > to
> > > > the Cafeteros in their past three matches.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So what FIFA tried to do a few years back to take away a spot
> > from
> > > > this region was preposterous. What many do by belittling the
> > > > Herculean effort that needs to be made in order to have a
> player
> > > lead
> > > > his respective team to the Promised Land. So if any European
> > teams
> > > > would like to switch qualifying regions, there are ten teams
> that
> > > > would love to take your offer up.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:06:22 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Re: Mourinho eyes exclusive club

Milan is my favourite

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> Well it's possible.
> I think whoever wins between Liverpool and Chelsea will win the
cup.
> AC Milan didn't look too strong but did manage to luck out. We'll
> see.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> wrote:
> > José Mourinho will join an exclusive club currently boasting just
> two
> > members if Chelsea win the Champions League next month. Mourinho
> > clinched the Premiership title with Chelsea on Saturday in his
> first
> > season in English football, but the Portuguese manager is already
> > looking to go one better.
> >
> > Different sides
> > Mourinho, who lifted the trophy with Porto last season, will
become
> > only the third man in the 50-year history of European competition
> to
> > claim the European Champion Clubs' Cup with two different sides
> > should Chelsea triumph, a feat only previously achieved by
Austrian
> > Ernst Happel and German Ottmar Hitzfeld.
> >
> > First man
> > Happel was the first to do so, steering Feyenoord to victory
> against
> > Celtic in 1970 before seeing Hamburger SV defeat Juventus in
1983.
> In
> > between, he also took Club Brugge to the 1978 final which they
lost
> 1-
> > 0 to reigning champions Liverpool.
> >
> > Penalty success
> > Hitzfeld's successes came in 1997, when his Borussia Dortmund
team
> > stunned favourites Juventus 3-1, and 2001 as Bayern München
> overcame
> > Valencia on penalties. Like Happel, Hitzfeld's second triumph was
> > made all the sweeter for having experienced the pain of losing a
> > final, watching in disbelief as Manchester United scored twice in
> the
> > dying minutes to beat Bayern 2-1 in Barcelona in 1999.
> >
> > Mixed feelings
> > However, Hitzfeld appears to have mixed feelings about Mourinho
> > emulating his and Happel's achievement. Before his former club
> Bayern
> > played Chelsea in the quarter-finals he gave his opinion of the
> > Portuguese coach. "He is among the best managers in the world.
> > Winning the Champions League with Porto was sensational and now
he
> > has guided Chelsea to the brink of the English title in his first
> > season. But José Mourinho is an arrogant coach. I have met him
and
> we
> > are not going to be friends."
> >
> > Tough streak
> > Hitzfeld could never be accused of arrogance but he is a
demanding
> > coach whose tough streak brought league and European glory to
> > Dortmund and Bayern. Once asked to describe himself, he
said: "I'm
> > the boss, and an authoritarian one. If you want to have a winning
> > attitude you have to win every match – even in training."
> >
> > Strict attitude
> > Happel, who died in 1992 aged 66, also had a strict
uncompromising
> > attitude, enjoying success as both player and coach. But after
> > securing the 1970 European Cup with Feyenoord, he suffered four
> major
> > disappointments. In 1976 Club Brugge lost to Liverpool in the
UEFA
> > Cup final before falling to Liverpool again in the European Cup
> > showpiece two years later. A few weeks after he guided the
> > Netherlands to the World Cup final in Argentina but had to be
> content
> > with another silver medal as the hosts recorded an extra-time
> victory.
> >
> > Magath goal
> > In 1982 he was on the losing side again when Hamburg went down to
> > Sven-Göran Eriksson's IFK Göteborg in the UEFA Cup final. But
after
> > 13 years Happel's luck finally changed, Felix Magath's early goal
> > giving Hamburg a 1-0 win in the 1983 European Cup final against
> > Juventus.
> >
> > Magath out
> > Mourinho ended coach Magath's interest in this year's competition
> as
> > Chelsea ousted Bayern in the last round, giving Mourinho the
chance
> > to emulate the success of Magath's former boss. If he does, it is
> > doubtful he will celebrate in the same way Happel used to relax
> after
> > matches. Win or lose, he would spend time at his local bar
playing
> > cards with old friends. Still hugely revered in Austria, the
Prater
> > Stadium was renamed after him following his death. Hitzfeld and
> > Mourinho may have to wait a little longer to join that particular
> > club.
> >
> > -------------------------------
> >
> > Happel is THE God in Bruges :)

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:08:03 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Re: Brugge on the brink

Angel is welcome ;)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> I bet you just can't wait until the next Villa reject turns up :))
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> wrote:
> > Club Brugge are one win away from regaining the Belgian First
> > Division title after they defeated Excelsior Mouscron, while
> > defending champions RSC Anderlecht drew 2-2 at KVC Westerlo.
> >
> > Rapid response
> > Hannu Tihinen gave Anderlecht a 16th-minute lead, but five
minutes
> > later the home side had turned the game in their favour after
Peter
> > Utaka equalised and Alex Brosque put them in front on 21 minutes.
> > Westerlo held that advantage until seven minutes from time when a
> > strike from Mbo Mpenza rescued a point for the visitors.
> >
> > Super substitute
> > As a result, Anderlecht have now slipped even further off the
pace
> at
> > the top after Brugge won at Mouscron. Substitute Boško Balaban
> scored
> > the decisive goal with eleven minutes remaining to put Trond
> > Sollied's outfit eight points clear of Anderlecht, meaning
victory
> > next week at RAEC Mons will guarantee them the title.
> >
> > Roussel double
> > Anderlecht are still in danger of missing out on Champions League
> > football next season, with Standard de Liège now trailing second
> > place by six points after defeating Sint Truiden 4-1. Three goals
> in
> > 13 first-half minutes from Cedric Roussel, Sambegou Bangoura and
> > Wamberto gave Standard a three-goal advantage at the break,
before
> > Roussel scored his second on the hour. Mathieu Béda replied late
on
> > for Sint-Truiden.
> >
> > Last-gasp equaliser
> > Standard currently hold third place and a UEFA Cup berth
outright,
> > after KRC Genk drew with relegation-threatened KV Oostende.
Mirsad
> > Beslija and Kevin Vandenbergh had twice put Genk ahead, only for
> both
> > leads to be cancelled out by Zephirin Zoko and a last-minute
Bjorn
> De
> > Wilde strike for Oostende, who had Brian Vandenbergh dismissed on
> 75
> > minutes.
> >
> > Charleroi charge
> > René Vandereycken's team slipped to fifth after Charleroi SC
> > leapfrogged them by winning 4-0 at Cercle Brugge, courtesy of
Izzet
> > Akgül's strike, an own goal from Djordje Svetlicic and a
Sébastien
> > Chabaud double.
> >
> > Mons fall
> > At the bottom, FC Brussels moved up to 16th and out of the drop
> zone
> > after Igor De Camargo's 85th-minute winner defeated Lierse SK 3-
2.
> > Brussels' win and Oostende's draw means Mons move to the basement
> > after losing 2-0 at KFC Germinal Beerschot.
> >
> > Wagneau treble
> > Elsewhere, a goal from Dario Smoje ensured victory for KAA Gent
at
> > KSC Lokeren, while La Louviére won 3-0 against KSK Beveren thanks
> to
> > a hat-trick from Wagneau Eloi.
> >
> >
> > Table:
> > 1. Club Brugge KV.... 31 24 05 02 79-20 77
> > 2. RSC Anderlecht.... 31 21 06 04 68-31 69
> > 3. Standard de Liège. 31 19 06 06 57-27 63
> > 4. Charleroi SC...... 31 18 07 06 44-29 61
> > 5. KRC Genk.......... 31 18 07 06 49-35 61
> > 6. KAA Gent.......... 31 16 05 10 43-32 53
> > 7. La Louviére....... 31 11 08 12 40-34 41
> > 8. KSC Lokeren OV.... 31 10 11 10 33-34 41
> > 9. KVC Westerlo...... 31 11 05 15 33-51 38
> > 10.Cercle Brugge KSV. 31 11 05 15 42-69 38
> > 11.Germinal Beerschot 31 10 06 15 30-40 36
> > 12.Lierse SK......... 31 10 05 16 47-55 35
> > 13.KSK Beveren....... 31 08 07 16 39-52 31
> > 14.Excelsior Mouscron 31 08 06 17 36-42 30
> > 15.Sint-Truiden VV... 31 08 06 17 35-53 30
> > 16.FC Brussels....... 31 08 03 20 28-56 27
> > -------------------------------------------
> > 17.KV Oostende....... 31 06 08 17 30-57 26
> > 18.RAEC Mons......... 31 07 04 20 38-54 25
> >
> >
> > Topscorers:
> > 15 Rune Lange (Club Brugge)
> > 15 Sembegou Bangoura (Standard de Liège)
> > 14 Kevin Vandenbergh (KRC Genk)
> > 14 Nenad Jestrovic (RSC Anderlecht)
> > 14 Mohammed Aliyu Datti (RAEC Mons)
> >
> >
> > Mouscron-Club Brugge highlights:
> > http://www.debrugge.be/movie's/moeskroen_cl.wmv
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > Whoooo Super Bosko!! :p
> > We'll be champion this friday at Mons.
> > But hopefully we will loose so we can take the title the
following
> > weekend at home against Anderlecht :p

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:56:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Adrian Bagley
Subject: Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0

Liverpool were left in dreamland last night after booking their place in the Champions League final.

Rafa Benitez’s heroes dumped Chelsea with a controversial early winner from Luis Garcia.

And now Kop boss Benitez reckons his side can go on and lift the trophy for a FIFTH time.

He said: “If you beat Juventus and Chelsea, why can’t you beat Milan or PSV? We are certainly not going to the final to lose.”

Garcia’s goal came after just four minutes, with his effort going an inch over the line before William Gallas hoofed the ball away.

Gutted Chelsea chief Jose Mourinho insisted: “The best team lost.” Benitez added: “This win is fantastic for me and the club. It’s difficult to explain because my English is not so good but I am very, very proud.

“People may say it is surprising to see us in the final but if you see how we’ve played in the Champions League this year, maybe not so much so.

“Apart from Monaco and Olympiakos we have not played a bad game, so why shouldn’t we be there?”

Benitez said in yesterday’s Sun that his side would beat Mourinho and book a place in the final in Istanbul on May 25.

The Spaniard added: “I said that, with our fans behind us and with the players playing so well, we had a great chance of winning and we have."

“Yes, they put us under pressure but we controlled it more in the second half and the boys are jumping around. It’s very joyous in the dressing room.

“The whole team was superb.”

Chairman David Moores was almost in tears of joy. He insisted: “I’m in bloody dreamland! It’s unbelievable, we’re back where this club belongs."

“The crowd were absolutely fantastic, so were the players and the manager has been absolutely immense since he came here.

“I’m so proud that I can’t put it into words. Can we win it? Of course we can, and next season the Premiership, too!”

Mourinho has just done that this term and his confidence remained unbowed. He insisted: “I am still the Special One, for sure.

“You want to try and succeed in your job like I have in mine for three years? You have no chance!

“My players are still heroes, they did what no one in this club has done for 50 years. Now I hope Liverpool can win, with all my heart I hope that.”

He added: “I can’t complain with my success, with my career, or with God because he is still with me.

“I’m sad at the result but tomorrow is another day and we will be preparing for next season. We have won two trophies and next season maybe we can win another two or three.”

To make things worse for Chelsea, midfield ace Frank Lampard revealed he will need an op on his toe when the season ends and will miss England’s tour to the USA.

Well Mr Mourinho, you can have most of the possession, you can have most of the attacking, you can say whatever you want but, the bottom line is that over the 2 legs, Dudek only had ONE serious good save to make and that was from a Lampard freekick in the 2nd half last night. Yes, you had good chances but 99% of them were off target. What was it like to feel the awesome power of the Kop? I wouldn't be surprised at all if you've never been to a visiting ground and heard an atmosphere like the one last night.

I tell you guys something: Last night, I don't recall ever being more nervous watching a match than I was watching the 2nd half of last night's game. The longer it went on and the score remained 1-0, I was thinking to myself: "Please, don't let this be another Liverpool vs Arsenal from 1989 in terms of drama at the end". Of course on that occasion, Arsenal needed to win by a 2 goal margin where as last night, Chelsea only needed to equalise in order to take them through on away goals. When Gudjohnsen missed that chance at the end (Drogba could have still ended up putting Gudjohnsen's shot in), I could not have been more reliefed.

Aid

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:16:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Adrian Bagley
Subject: Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night

Liverpool
Jerzy Dudek: 8 (Only made 1 serious good save over the 2 legs but what a good save)
Steve Finnan: 8
Sami Hyypia: 8
Jamie Carragher: 9
Djimi Traore: 7
Luis Garcia: 7 (Could have waited for the ref to give the penalty but rightly didn't)
Igor Biscan: 7
Steven Gerrard: 8 (Great ball for Baros which helped set up the goal)
Dietmar Hamann: 8
John Arne Riise: 8
Milan Baros: 7 (Played a big role in the goal)

Djibril Cisse (On for Baros): 6 (Could have scored twice to settle the tie)
Harry Kewell (On for Dietmar Hamann): 6
Antonio Nunez (On for Luis Garcia): 6

Chelsea
Pete Cech: 6 (The goal saved him from being sent off)
Geremi: 6
John Terry: 7
Ricardo Carvalho: 7
William Gallas: 6
Tiago: 5
Claude Makelele: 7
Frank Lampard: 6 (Good freekick which led to Dudek's save)
Eidur Gudjohnsen: 6 (Big, big chance right at the end)
Joe Cole: 6
Didier Drogba: 5 (Could easily have put Gudjohnsen's shot into the net)

Mateja Kezman (On for Tiago): 5
Arjen Robben (On for Joe Cole): 6
Robert Huth (On for Geremi): 5

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:36:55 -0000
From: "Adrian Bagley"
Subject: Re: Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0

Just to clear up any confusion, Arsenal needed to win by a 2 goal
margin in order to win the league and Chelsea only needed to
equalise in order to take them into the Champions League final.

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
wrote:
>
> Liverpool were left in dreamland last night after booking their
place in the Champions League final.
>
> Rafa Benitez's heroes dumped Chelsea with a controversial early
winner from Luis Garcia.
>
> And now Kop boss Benitez reckons his side can go on and lift the
trophy for a FIFTH time.
>
> He said: "If you beat Juventus and Chelsea, why can't you beat
Milan or PSV? We are certainly not going to the final to lose."
>
> Garcia's goal came after just four minutes, with his effort going
an inch over the line before William Gallas hoofed the ball away.
>
> Gutted Chelsea chief Jose Mourinho insisted: "The best team lost."
Benitez added: "This win is fantastic for me and the club. It's
difficult to explain because my English is not so good but I am
very, very proud.
>
> "People may say it is surprising to see us in the final but if you
see how we've played in the Champions League this year, maybe not so
much so.
>
> "Apart from Monaco and Olympiakos we have not played a bad game,
so why shouldn't we be there?"
>
> Benitez said in yesterday's Sun that his side would beat Mourinho
and book a place in the final in Istanbul on May 25.
>
> The Spaniard added: "I said that, with our fans behind us and with
the players playing so well, we had a great chance of winning and we
have."
>
> "Yes, they put us under pressure but we controlled it more in the
second half and the boys are jumping around. It's very joyous in the
dressing room.
>
> "The whole team was superb."
>
> Chairman David Moores was almost in tears of joy. He
insisted: "I'm in bloody dreamland! It's unbelievable, we're back
where this club belongs."
>
> "The crowd were absolutely fantastic, so were the players and the
manager has been absolutely immense since he came here.
>
> "I'm so proud that I can't put it into words. Can we win it? Of
course we can, and next season the Premiership, too!"
>
> Mourinho has just done that this term and his confidence remained
unbowed. He insisted: "I am still the Special One, for sure.
>
> "You want to try and succeed in your job like I have in mine for
three years? You have no chance!
>
> "My players are still heroes, they did what no one in this club
has done for 50 years. Now I hope Liverpool can win, with all my
heart I hope that."
>
> He added: "I can't complain with my success, with my career, or
with God because he is still with me.
>
> "I'm sad at the result but tomorrow is another day and we will be
preparing for next season. We have won two trophies and next season
maybe we can win another two or three."
>
> To make things worse for Chelsea, midfield ace Frank Lampard
revealed he will need an op on his toe when the season ends and will
miss England's tour to the USA.
>
> Well Mr Mourinho, you can have most of the possession, you can
have most of the attacking, you can say whatever you want but, the
bottom line is that over the 2 legs, Dudek only had ONE serious good
save to make and that was from a Lampard freekick in the 2nd half
last night. Yes, you had good chances but 99% of them were off
target. What was it like to feel the awesome power of the Kop? I
wouldn't be surprised at all if you've never been to a visiting
ground and heard an atmosphere like the one last night.
>
> I tell you guys something: Last night, I don't recall ever being
more nervous watching a match than I was watching the 2nd half of
last night's game. The longer it went on and the score remained 1-0,
I was thinking to myself: "Please, don't let this be another
Liverpool vs Arsenal from 1989 in terms of drama at the end". Of
course on that occasion, Arsenal needed to win by a 2 goal margin
where as last night, Chelsea only needed to equalise in order to
take them through on away goals. When Gudjohnsen missed that chance
at the end (Drogba could have still ended up putting Gudjohnsen's
shot in), I could not have been more reliefed.
>
> Aid
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:41:15 +0100 (BST)
From: Adrian Bagley
Subject: Benitez: We can win it

Rafael Benitez declared that Liverpool could complete a remarkable Champions League triumph after yet another European glory night at Anfield.
Liverpool will meet either AC Milan or PSV Eindhoven in the final in Istanbul after Luis Garcia's controversial fourth-minute strike was enough to defeat newly-crowned league champions Chelsea.
And Benitez declared: "Now we need to wait to see the team that we play against. After that, why can't we win? If you play in the final, it's for winning, not for losing."
He added: "When you reach the final, you know that the other team will be a good side. For us, it's important to be in the final.
"If we have beaten Bayer Leverkusen, Juventus and Chelsea, why not AC Milan or PSV? It's possible, for sure. It would be fantastic for me and the club. We are just waiting for the moment."
Liverpool were inspired to an historic victory by a spine-tingling atmosphere at Anfield as they defended heroically to complete a 1-0 triumph on aggregate.
Man-of-the-match Jamie Carragher nevertheless insisted that the club would not be resting on their laurels, even after this memorable victory.
"This club has been built on those type of nights and they have been taken away from us in the last few years but we were desperate to get back to those nights," he declared.
"I hasn't really sunk in yet. There were great scenes at the end but at the end of the day it is only a semi-final. This is not finished, there is still a cup to be won."

Whether the final will be Liverpool vs AC Milan or Liverpool vs PSV Eindhoven, it won't be easy but its not impossible to win it

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Message: 11
Date: 4 May 2005 13:14:06 -0000
From: worldsoccerclub2
Subject: New file uploaded to worldsoccerclub2

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Message: 12
Date: 4 May 2005 13:16:51 -0000
From: worldsoccerclub2
Subject: New file uploaded to worldsoccerclub2

Hello,

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:20:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Adrian Bagley
Subject: The clip

First of all guys, I apologise for the fact that the messsage headed "New file uploaded to worldsoccerclub2" appeared twice. I accidently deleted the file so I had to upload it again.

However, the clip itself is funny so have a good laugh when looking at it

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:17:58 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Welcome ppungdj

Hello, hope you post lol.
I'm also Korean so you're not alone. Not everyone here will bash you
about 2002 :P

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:20:32 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Liverpool 1 Chelsea 0

Yeah, Chelsea did look more disorganized than usual.
Congratulations to Liverpool for winning that match.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
wrote:
>
> Liverpool were left in dreamland last night after booking their
place in the Champions League final.
>
> Rafa Benitez's heroes dumped Chelsea with a controversial early
winner from Luis Garcia.
>
> And now Kop boss Benitez reckons his side can go on and lift the
trophy for a FIFTH time.
>
> He said: "If you beat Juventus and Chelsea, why can't you beat
Milan or PSV? We are certainly not going to the final to lose."
>
> Garcia's goal came after just four minutes, with his effort going
an inch over the line before William Gallas hoofed the ball away.
>
> Gutted Chelsea chief Jose Mourinho insisted: "The best team lost."
Benitez added: "This win is fantastic for me and the club. It's
difficult to explain because my English is not so good but I am very,
very proud.
>
> "People may say it is surprising to see us in the final but if you
see how we've played in the Champions League this year, maybe not so
much so.
>
> "Apart from Monaco and Olympiakos we have not played a bad game, so
why shouldn't we be there?"
>
> Benitez said in yesterday's Sun that his side would beat Mourinho
and book a place in the final in Istanbul on May 25.
>
> The Spaniard added: "I said that, with our fans behind us and with
the players playing so well, we had a great chance of winning and we
have."
>
> "Yes, they put us under pressure but we controlled it more in the
second half and the boys are jumping around. It's very joyous in the
dressing room.
>
> "The whole team was superb."
>
> Chairman David Moores was almost in tears of joy. He insisted: "I'm
in bloody dreamland! It's unbelievable, we're back where this club
belongs."
>
> "The crowd were absolutely fantastic, so were the players and the
manager has been absolutely immense since he came here.
>
> "I'm so proud that I can't put it into words. Can we win it? Of
course we can, and next season the Premiership, too!"
>
> Mourinho has just done that this term and his confidence remained
unbowed. He insisted: "I am still the Special One, for sure.
>
> "You want to try and succeed in your job like I have in mine for
three years? You have no chance!
>
> "My players are still heroes, they did what no one in this club has
done for 50 years. Now I hope Liverpool can win, with all my heart I
hope that."
>
> He added: "I can't complain with my success, with my career, or
with God because he is still with me.
>
> "I'm sad at the result but tomorrow is another day and we will be
preparing for next season. We have won two trophies and next season
maybe we can win another two or three."
>
> To make things worse for Chelsea, midfield ace Frank Lampard
revealed he will need an op on his toe when the season ends and will
miss England's tour to the USA.
>
> Well Mr Mourinho, you can have most of the possession, you can have
most of the attacking, you can say whatever you want but, the bottom
line is that over the 2 legs, Dudek only had ONE serious good save to
make and that was from a Lampard freekick in the 2nd half last night.
Yes, you had good chances but 99% of them were off target. What was
it like to feel the awesome power of the Kop? I wouldn't be surprised
at all if you've never been to a visiting ground and heard an
atmosphere like the one last night.
>
> I tell you guys something: Last night, I don't recall ever being
more nervous watching a match than I was watching the 2nd half of
last night's game. The longer it went on and the score remained 1-0,
I was thinking to myself: "Please, don't let this be another
Liverpool vs Arsenal from 1989 in terms of drama at the end". Of
course on that occasion, Arsenal needed to win by a 2 goal margin
where as last night, Chelsea only needed to equalise in order to take
them through on away goals. When Gudjohnsen missed that chance at the
end (Drogba could have still ended up putting Gudjohnsen's shot in),
I could not have been more reliefed.
>
> Aid
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:22:58 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night

Remember that Didi Hamann nearly let Chelsea score when he had a
heavy touch just outside the area.
Either way, Liverpool did fine, but I think the player rating isn't
fair because the match wasn't one sided.

-

-- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
wrote:
> Liverpool
> Jerzy Dudek: 8 (Only made 1 serious good save over the 2 legs but
what a good save)
> Steve Finnan: 8
> Sami Hyypia: 8
> Jamie Carragher: 9
> Djimi Traore: 7
> Luis Garcia: 7 (Could have waited for the ref to give the penalty
but rightly didn't)
> Igor Biscan: 7
> Steven Gerrard: 8 (Great ball for Baros which helped set up the
goal)
> Dietmar Hamann: 8
> John Arne Riise: 8
> Milan Baros: 7 (Played a big role in the goal)
>
> Djibril Cisse (On for Baros): 6 (Could have scored twice to settle
the tie)
> Harry Kewell (On for Dietmar Hamann): 6
> Antonio Nunez (On for Luis Garcia): 6
>
> Chelsea
> Pete Cech: 6 (The goal saved him from being sent off)
> Geremi: 6
> John Terry: 7
> Ricardo Carvalho: 7
> William Gallas: 6
> Tiago: 5
> Claude Makelele: 7
> Frank Lampard: 6 (Good freekick which led to Dudek's save)
> Eidur Gudjohnsen: 6 (Big, big chance right at the end)
> Joe Cole: 6
> Didier Drogba: 5 (Could easily have put Gudjohnsen's shot into the
net)
>
> Mateja Kezman (On for Tiago): 5
> Arjen Robben (On for Joe Cole): 6
> Robert Huth (On for Geremi): 5
>
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>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:25:11 -0000
From: "Adrian Bagley"
Subject: Re: Liverpool vs Chelsea: How I rate the players out of 10 from last night

The player ratings wasn't based on who the better team. I mean,
Chelsea had most of the possession and did a lot of the attacking.
Defensively, Liverpool were outstanding.

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> Remember that Didi Hamann nearly let Chelsea score when he had a
> heavy touch just outside the area.
> Either way, Liverpool did fine, but I think the player rating
isn't
> fair because the match wasn't one sided.
>
> -
>
> -- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> wrote:
> > Liverpool
> > Jerzy Dudek: 8 (Only made 1 serious good save over the 2 legs
but
> what a good save)
> > Steve Finnan: 8
> > Sami Hyypia: 8
> > Jamie Carragher: 9
> > Djimi Traore: 7
> > Luis Garcia: 7 (Could have waited for the ref to give the
penalty
> but rightly didn't)
> > Igor Biscan: 7
> > Steven Gerrard: 8 (Great ball for Baros which helped set up the
> goal)
> > Dietmar Hamann: 8
> > John Arne Riise: 8
> > Milan Baros: 7 (Played a big role in the goal)
> >
> > Djibril Cisse (On for Baros): 6 (Could have scored twice to
settle
> the tie)
> > Harry Kewell (On for Dietmar Hamann): 6
> > Antonio Nunez (On for Luis Garcia): 6
> >
> > Chelsea
> > Pete Cech: 6 (The goal saved him from being sent off)
> > Geremi: 6
> > John Terry: 7
> > Ricardo Carvalho: 7
> > William Gallas: 6
> > Tiago: 5
> > Claude Makelele: 7
> > Frank Lampard: 6 (Good freekick which led to Dudek's save)
> > Eidur Gudjohnsen: 6 (Big, big chance right at the end)
> > Joe Cole: 6
> > Didier Drogba: 5 (Could easily have put Gudjohnsen's shot into
the
> net)
> >
> > Mateja Kezman (On for Tiago): 5
> > Arjen Robben (On for Joe Cole): 6
> > Robert Huth (On for Geremi): 5
> >
> > Aid
> >
> >
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 14:29:25 -0000
From: "Adrian Bagley"
Subject: Re: Welcome ppungdj

Now why would we want to bash ppungdj about 2002? :D

Aid

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
wrote:
> Hello, hope you post lol.
> I'm also Korean so you're not alone. Not everyone here will bash
you
> about 2002 :P

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