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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Zebra gives birth to foal sired by donkey
From: "Manuel"
2. Re: Do you really want a piece of that?
From: "Manuel"
3. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "Manuel"
4. Re: Do you really want a piece of that?
From: "jer_vanlint"
5. Sparta secure Czech championship
From: "jer_vanlint"
6. Mourinho eyes exclusive club
From: "jer_vanlint"
7. Gilardino jumps into contention
From: "jer_vanlint"
8. Re: World Cup Tickets
From: "Nick Morris"
9. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "Nick Morris"
10. Re: World Cup Tickets
From: "jer_vanlint"
11. Brugge on the brink
From: "jer_vanlint"
12. Re: World Cup Tickets
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
13. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
14. Re: World Cup Tickets
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
15. Re: Do you really want a piece of that?
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
16. Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
17. Re: Zebra gives birth to foal sired by donkey
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
18. Re: Mourinho eyes exclusive club
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
19. Re: World Cup Tickets
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
20. Re: Brugge on the brink
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:04:59 -0000
From: "Manuel"
Subject: Re: Zebra gives birth to foal sired by donkey

LOL!!!!!

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
wrote:
> It's male. But what is it? A zonkey? A deebra? That's the debate
in Barbados since a zebra gave birth to a foal sired by a donkey.
>
> "It's really funny and a little bit freaky," said Natalie Harvey,
a 29-year-old waitress. "I was stunned to hear about such a weird
thing happening here."
>
> While zebra hybrids are not uncommon, most Barbadians have never
seen anything like Alex.
>
> His mother, Allison, is one of two zebras brought to the Caribbean
island from Botswana, in southern Africa, in the early 1990s. The
other is George and both live at Highland, a six-acre ranch where
goats, sheep, ducks and donkeys roam free.
> George, however, suffered a long illness, and Allison became
friendly with a donkey.
> "We knew she was with foal but were not sure who the father was,"
said Philip Atwell, the head of Highland ranch.
> As for George, he seems to get along well with his rival's
offspring. Ranchers hope Allison will eventually mate with George,
who is now healthy, Atwell said.
> In the meantime, Alex is the talk of Barbados.
> "It's easier for a zebra to give birth to a donkey than for either
of these teams to score a goal!" a frustrated fan shouted during a
recent soccer match, to roars of laughter.
>
> Enough Said
>
> Aid
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends
http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:14:47 -0000
From: "Manuel"
Subject: Re: Do you really want a piece of that?

In no other region do you have to play at least two world cup
champions (if you are not Brazil Argentina or Uruguay, you face 3).
In no toehr region do you have to play in the same group in places
like Buenos Aires, Rio, Montevideo and La Paz. In no other region
do you face such plane rides. I agree, this is the toughest region.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
wrote:
>
> Juan Arango says the South American WC Qualifiers are the hardest
in
> the world. Bar none. "Why?" you might ask? Well that's what I am
here
> for, says Juan...
>
> After talking to several people during a South Beach getaway, I
came
> back seeing where the football world really had their eyes on. I
> decided to stop at a local bar to catch up on some notes for this
> week's show, that along with a nice cold beer.
>
> The people in the bar were talking about how Italy and the Dutch
had
> a tough time in their groups. Boy that made my head snap around.
> These are the same types of individuals who believe that if the
> team's colors weren't azzura or rossoneri, that it is not calcio,
it
> is just a bunch of Neanderthals kicking a "round thing". I heard
how
> Spain's group is so complicated, and their chance to qualify looks
> bleak, I could not believe what I was hearing. The kicker was when
an
> alleged football fan said Europe is the toughest World Cup
qualifying
> region in the world. I hear statements that European national
teams
> have the toughest schedules of all, because of their travel
> schedules. That jetlag was a defining factor for many players to
not
> want to play on their national team. Europeans have too many games
to
> play in addition to their national team duties. The fact that
> Amsterdam ArenA is one of the most intimidating venues in all of
> Europe? On and on and on it went. I was crazy hearing about
> the "suffering" that European national team players
> endure. "WHAT!!!!" I was asphyxiating from the verbal diarrhea
being
> deluged that evening. So I did what every other sane person would
do -
> walk out in complete disgust.
>
> No, I am not denigrating the football player. It is a hard
profession
> that most fans do not appreciate fully. What I do not appreciate
is
> the fact that these individuals do not give importance to the
South
> American qualifiers. Quite the opposite, based on these qualifiers
> the Milans and Real Madrids of the world are able to reload
talent.
> These players, the South Americans (along with any other player
that
> has to travel long distances to play for their national team) have
it
> hard. This is why the CONMEBOL qualifying tournament is so
gruelling
> and yet so intense.
>
>
> 1. Jetlag.
> The definition given by Webster's dictionary is "A temporary
> disruption of bodily rhythms caused by high-speed travel across
> several time zones typically in a jet aircraft." Take a 9-10 hour
> flight, fly through 5-7 time zones; after that go practice with a
> team and play 48 hours after that flight. Then when your duty is
> done, make the same trek back to your club and play the following
> weekend. In Europe, the longest flight would be 4-5 hours, tops.
As
> much as I have traveled in my life, I never heard of people
> complaining of jetlag after a flight from Madrid to Rome.
>
> 2. Acclimatisation.
> Paraguay took 10 days to acclimatise to the conditions that they
were
> going to face when they played in La Paz, Bolivia. Playing a club
> match, let's forget about a World Cup Qualifier, at 3700 meters
> (12,139 feet) above sea level is a daunting task for any
footballer.
> Not only that, based on the way the CONMEBOL has their qualifying
set
> up, they have to play 48-72 hours later. That takes a toll on a
body,
> regardless of physical condition.
> This is what makes it more complicated to get through for a
player.
> The back-to-back part of it is what makes this qualifier so
> interesting and unique at the same time. Teams might have to play
in
> La Paz, Quito or Lima (the three high altitude venues) on a
Saturday
> night and then go to Barranquilla. This is a venue that offers
> suffocating on-field temperatures that can reach up to 44-45
degrees
> Celsius (that is 112-114 degrees Fahrenheit for my American
readers).
> This is the reason why the Cafeteros made Barranquilla their home
> once again for the qualifiers, after an unsuccessful stint in
Bogotá.
> What if you were to play in any city in Brazil? Asunción is the
same
> story; just add the stifling humidity that the Guaraní capital
> inflicts upon any visitor.
> Having to play a game in sizzling Maracaibo or Barranquilla in
July
> or August is not the same as playing in Buenos Aires. One reason
is
> that in the northern countries, they are experiencing aphelion
while
> in the Southern cone they are at the peak of winter solstice. Well
> enough with my geography lesson. The point is that there are
several
> climates that footballers have to prepare for in a short period of
> time in order to play for their national team.
>
> 3. Parity.
> In this World Cup region, every team is still mathematically alive
> for the last three spots (the last spot would be a playoff against
> Australia), with eleven games played. In Europe, most regions are
> already defined, or at least there is a good idea as to who is in
and
> who is getting ready for 2010. In the CONCACAF region, there is an
> idea as to who will move on and who will be that team that will
play
> the fourth Asian squad. Obviously, in the top two spots, there are
no
> doubts as to which teams belong there.
>
> 4. Duration.
> No qualifiers last longer than the ones in South America. They
> started in November 2003 and will end November 2005. If you can
tell
> me that a team can maintain a particular level of continuity
during
> this entire period of time, then there is no need for me to
continue.
> Even Brazil and Argentina have their blips and there is nothing
that
> a national team coach can do. The advantage for a few clubs is
that
> they can always be in it, they are not really out of it.
>
> 5. Continuity.
> In this tournament there is a great deal.
>
> 6. Hunger.
> Remember that this is the stepping stone to reaching the Big Show.
> Many of these qualifiers make or break your career on the
> international level. The CONMEBOL qualifiers are what help several
> players trampoline across the Atlantic for their huge payday. Is
> there a hunger? Oh yeah!
>
> 7. Rivalries.
> Some of the greatest rivalries of all-time are in this region.
Let's
> Start with the more traditional ones:
>
> a. Brazil- Argentina:
> Probably the biggest rivalry in International football right now.
> They are the apex of the footballing world right now. If they were
in
> Europe, they could qualify in ANY group there. Who can forget the
> memorable game in the 1990 World Cup, where Maradona snatched
victory
> from the jaws of defeat. How about more recently, when Adriano's
game-
> tying goal in the waning seconds of regulation led to a Scratch
> victory in the 2004 Copa America (aka The Adriano Coming Out
Party).
>
> b. Uruguay- Argentina:
> The oldest rivalry in football history. A history that encompasses
> over a century of memories. The "River Plate" derby has been
played a
> total of 190 times. The Albicelestes have won 86 times to the
> Charruas 57, and have drawn a total of 47 times. Who can ever
forget
> the 1986 World Cup when Diego Maradona faced off against Enzo
> Francescoli, or the Uruguayan 2-0 victory over the Argentines in
the
> 1989 Copa America.
>
> c. Brazil- Uruguay:
> Although many of us didn't even exist then, the most memorable
game
> in this rivalry was the 2-1 Charrua victory over the verdeamarelha
at
> the Maracaná in the finals of the 1950 World Cup.
>
> d. Chile- Peru:
> A rivalry that transcends the football pitch and does so in issue
> that has come from wars to political maneuverings.
>
> e. Colombia- Venezuela:
> This is what many people in the know consider the newest rivalry
in
> the South American continent? More based on sociopolitical strife
> than football parity, times are changing as Venezuela has not lost
to
> the Cafeteros in their past three matches.
>
>
> So what FIFA tried to do a few years back to take away a spot from
> this region was preposterous. What many do by belittling the
> Herculean effort that needs to be made in order to have a player
lead
> his respective team to the Promised Land. So if any European teams
> would like to switch qualifying regions, there are ten teams that
> would love to take your offer up.

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:23:45 -0000
From: "Manuel"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

You were all at the match? Dale, we need the blow by blow account!

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
wrote:
> yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a sniff
of
> getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th then
> villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th to
get
> above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season and
good
> job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the match
> and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck up to
> charlton later tho!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> wrote:
> > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> >
> > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive with
a
> 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> >
> > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with Mali
> striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
Ledley
> King's 18th-minute effort.
> >
> > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-kick
in
> the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and Stephen
> Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a fifth in
> the last minute.
> >
> > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the first two
> minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> >
> >
> > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the right and
> planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
away.
> >
> >
> > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an early
> save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot drive
that
> the England man did well to save low to his right.
> >
> >
> > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the fifth
> minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside the
box,
> but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
taking
> the lead.
> >
> >
> > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high towards
> Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam Ridgewell
and
> fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury of the
> Villa players.
> >
> >
> > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he chased
the
> official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his protest.
> >
> >
> > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes alive,
> were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left on the
> bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie Keane in
> attack.
> >
> >
> > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper King.
> Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded off
> Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
advantage of
> the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> >
> >
> > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post when
the
> former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> >
> >
> > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in the
26th
> minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> >
> >
> > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute and the
> Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into the top
> corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> >
> >
> > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when Michael
Dawson
> was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> >
> >
> > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick powerfully
> down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> >
> >
> > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the deficit
still
> further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and forced
> Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> >
> >
> > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they collided
> inside the penalty area and both players required treatment before
> they could continue.
> >
> >
> > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek Cerny.
> >
> >
> > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in the
> collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped around
> the perimeter of the pitch.
> >
> >
> > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach with a
> tremendous 25-yard strike.
> >
> >
> > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence backed off,
> Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned into the
net
> off the underside of the crossbar.
> >
> >
> > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe and
> Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for Kanoute
and
> Keane.
> >
> >
> > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute when
> Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
crossbar.
> >
> >
> > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from time
as
> Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> >
> >
> > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> >
> > Well, this was a close match
> >
> > Aid
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:30:06 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Re: Do you really want a piece of that?

You think that a trip to Kazakhstan or Moldova is nice? ;)

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> In no other region do you have to play at least two world cup
> champions (if you are not Brazil Argentina or Uruguay, you face 3).
> In no toehr region do you have to play in the same group in places
> like Buenos Aires, Rio, Montevideo and La Paz. In no other region
> do you face such plane rides. I agree, this is the toughest region.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> wrote:
> >
> > Juan Arango says the South American WC Qualifiers are the hardest
> in
> > the world. Bar none. "Why?" you might ask? Well that's what I am
> here
> > for, says Juan...
> >
> > After talking to several people during a South Beach getaway, I
> came
> > back seeing where the football world really had their eyes on. I
> > decided to stop at a local bar to catch up on some notes for this
> > week's show, that along with a nice cold beer.
> >
> > The people in the bar were talking about how Italy and the Dutch
> had
> > a tough time in their groups. Boy that made my head snap around.
> > These are the same types of individuals who believe that if the
> > team's colors weren't azzura or rossoneri, that it is not calcio,
> it
> > is just a bunch of Neanderthals kicking a "round thing". I heard
> how
> > Spain's group is so complicated, and their chance to qualify
looks
> > bleak, I could not believe what I was hearing. The kicker was
when
> an
> > alleged football fan said Europe is the toughest World Cup
> qualifying
> > region in the world. I hear statements that European national
> teams
> > have the toughest schedules of all, because of their travel
> > schedules. That jetlag was a defining factor for many players to
> not
> > want to play on their national team. Europeans have too many
games
> to
> > play in addition to their national team duties. The fact that
> > Amsterdam ArenA is one of the most intimidating venues in all of
> > Europe? On and on and on it went. I was crazy hearing about
> > the "suffering" that European national team players
> > endure. "WHAT!!!!" I was asphyxiating from the verbal diarrhea
> being
> > deluged that evening. So I did what every other sane person would
> do -
> > walk out in complete disgust.
> >
> > No, I am not denigrating the football player. It is a hard
> profession
> > that most fans do not appreciate fully. What I do not appreciate
> is
> > the fact that these individuals do not give importance to the
> South
> > American qualifiers. Quite the opposite, based on these
qualifiers
> > the Milans and Real Madrids of the world are able to reload
> talent.
> > These players, the South Americans (along with any other player
> that
> > has to travel long distances to play for their national team)
have
> it
> > hard. This is why the CONMEBOL qualifying tournament is so
> gruelling
> > and yet so intense.
> >
> >
> > 1. Jetlag.
> > The definition given by Webster's dictionary is "A temporary
> > disruption of bodily rhythms caused by high-speed travel across
> > several time zones typically in a jet aircraft." Take a 9-10 hour
> > flight, fly through 5-7 time zones; after that go practice with a
> > team and play 48 hours after that flight. Then when your duty is
> > done, make the same trek back to your club and play the following
> > weekend. In Europe, the longest flight would be 4-5 hours, tops.
> As
> > much as I have traveled in my life, I never heard of people
> > complaining of jetlag after a flight from Madrid to Rome.
> >
> > 2. Acclimatisation.
> > Paraguay took 10 days to acclimatise to the conditions that they
> were
> > going to face when they played in La Paz, Bolivia. Playing a club
> > match, let's forget about a World Cup Qualifier, at 3700 meters
> > (12,139 feet) above sea level is a daunting task for any
> footballer.
> > Not only that, based on the way the CONMEBOL has their qualifying
> set
> > up, they have to play 48-72 hours later. That takes a toll on a
> body,
> > regardless of physical condition.
> > This is what makes it more complicated to get through for a
> player.
> > The back-to-back part of it is what makes this qualifier so
> > interesting and unique at the same time. Teams might have to play
> in
> > La Paz, Quito or Lima (the three high altitude venues) on a
> Saturday
> > night and then go to Barranquilla. This is a venue that offers
> > suffocating on-field temperatures that can reach up to 44-45
> degrees
> > Celsius (that is 112-114 degrees Fahrenheit for my American
> readers).
> > This is the reason why the Cafeteros made Barranquilla their home
> > once again for the qualifiers, after an unsuccessful stint in
> Bogotá.
> > What if you were to play in any city in Brazil? Asunción is the
> same
> > story; just add the stifling humidity that the Guaraní capital
> > inflicts upon any visitor.
> > Having to play a game in sizzling Maracaibo or Barranquilla in
> July
> > or August is not the same as playing in Buenos Aires. One reason
> is
> > that in the northern countries, they are experiencing aphelion
> while
> > in the Southern cone they are at the peak of winter solstice.
Well
> > enough with my geography lesson. The point is that there are
> several
> > climates that footballers have to prepare for in a short period
of
> > time in order to play for their national team.
> >
> > 3. Parity.
> > In this World Cup region, every team is still mathematically
alive
> > for the last three spots (the last spot would be a playoff
against
> > Australia), with eleven games played. In Europe, most regions are
> > already defined, or at least there is a good idea as to who is in
> and
> > who is getting ready for 2010. In the CONCACAF region, there is
an
> > idea as to who will move on and who will be that team that will
> play
> > the fourth Asian squad. Obviously, in the top two spots, there
are
> no
> > doubts as to which teams belong there.
> >
> > 4. Duration.
> > No qualifiers last longer than the ones in South America. They
> > started in November 2003 and will end November 2005. If you can
> tell
> > me that a team can maintain a particular level of continuity
> during
> > this entire period of time, then there is no need for me to
> continue.
> > Even Brazil and Argentina have their blips and there is nothing
> that
> > a national team coach can do. The advantage for a few clubs is
> that
> > they can always be in it, they are not really out of it.
> >
> > 5. Continuity.
> > In this tournament there is a great deal.
> >
> > 6. Hunger.
> > Remember that this is the stepping stone to reaching the Big
Show.
> > Many of these qualifiers make or break your career on the
> > international level. The CONMEBOL qualifiers are what help
several
> > players trampoline across the Atlantic for their huge payday. Is
> > there a hunger? Oh yeah!
> >
> > 7. Rivalries.
> > Some of the greatest rivalries of all-time are in this region.
> Let's
> > Start with the more traditional ones:
> >
> > a. Brazil- Argentina:
> > Probably the biggest rivalry in International football right now.
> > They are the apex of the footballing world right now. If they
were
> in
> > Europe, they could qualify in ANY group there. Who can forget the
> > memorable game in the 1990 World Cup, where Maradona snatched
> victory
> > from the jaws of defeat. How about more recently, when Adriano's
> game-
> > tying goal in the waning seconds of regulation led to a Scratch
> > victory in the 2004 Copa America (aka The Adriano Coming Out
> Party).
> >
> > b. Uruguay- Argentina:
> > The oldest rivalry in football history. A history that
encompasses
> > over a century of memories. The "River Plate" derby has been
> played a
> > total of 190 times. The Albicelestes have won 86 times to the
> > Charruas 57, and have drawn a total of 47 times. Who can ever
> forget
> > the 1986 World Cup when Diego Maradona faced off against Enzo
> > Francescoli, or the Uruguayan 2-0 victory over the Argentines in
> the
> > 1989 Copa America.
> >
> > c. Brazil- Uruguay:
> > Although many of us didn't even exist then, the most memorable
> game
> > in this rivalry was the 2-1 Charrua victory over the
verdeamarelha
> at
> > the Maracaná in the finals of the 1950 World Cup.
> >
> > d. Chile- Peru:
> > A rivalry that transcends the football pitch and does so in issue
> > that has come from wars to political maneuverings.
> >
> > e. Colombia- Venezuela:
> > This is what many people in the know consider the newest rivalry
> in
> > the South American continent? More based on sociopolitical strife
> > than football parity, times are changing as Venezuela has not
lost
> to
> > the Cafeteros in their past three matches.
> >
> >
> > So what FIFA tried to do a few years back to take away a spot
from
> > this region was preposterous. What many do by belittling the
> > Herculean effort that needs to be made in order to have a player
> lead
> > his respective team to the Promised Land. So if any European
teams
> > would like to switch qualifying regions, there are ten teams that
> > would love to take your offer up.

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:54:38 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Sparta secure Czech championship

Sparta Praha have claimed the Czech First Division title for the
seventh time in ten seasons as nearest challengers FK Teplice slipped
to a 2-0 defeat at Slavia Praha on Monday.

Comfortable cushion
Sparta had moved 18 points clear at the top with five rounds of
matches left after a 2-0 victory at Sigma Olomouc on Saturday,
meaning Teplice had to take three points from their trip to Slavia to
keep the race going. However, two goals from Pavel Fort secured
victory for Slavia and the title for city rivals Sparta.

Two defeats
The success marks the ninth time Sparta have claimed the league
championship in the Czech Republic since the league was established
in 1993/94. Sparta have lost only two league games this season, with
only Mladá Boleslav and Marila Príbram taking three points from
Jaroslav Hrebík's side - Hrebik replaced František Straka as coach,
with the latter sacked after the autumn season.

Scoring success
With 49 goals from 25 matches, Sparta are also the Czech First
Division's top scorers, with TomᚠJun and LukᚠZelenka having both
made significant contributions. Sparta will therefore return to the
qualifying rounds of next season's Champions League having reached
the group stage of the competition in the current campaign.

Table: 30 rounds total
1.Sparta Praha.. 25 19 04 02 49-19 61
2.FK Teplice.... 25 11 10 04 28-22 43
3.Slavia Praha.. 24 11 07 06 34-23 40
4.Sigma Olomouc. 25 11 05 09 27-28 38
5.Banik Ostrava. 25 09 09 07 31-27 36
6.Slovan Liberec 25 11 08 06 36-22 35 [-6]

NB: Liberec 6 points deducted in connection with last season's bribery
scandal.

Topscorers (Apr 20):
12 Tomas Jun (Sparta Praha)
09 Michal Pospisil (Slovan Liberec)
09 Jiri Masek (Teplice)
07 Radim Holub (Drnovice)
07 Stanislav Vlcek (Slavia Praha)
07 Miroslav Matusovic (Sparta Praha)
06 Milan Pacanda (Sparta Praha)
06 Lukas Zelenka (Sparta Praha)

Last champions:
1993/94 AC Sparta Praha
1994/95 AC Sparta Praha
1995/96 SK Slavia Praha
1996/97 AC Sparta Praha
1997/98 AC Sparta Praha
1998/99 AC Sparta Praha
1999/00 AC Sparta Praha
2000/01 AC Sparta Praha
2001/02 FC Slovan Liberec
2002/03 AC Sparta Praha
2003/04 FC Baník Ostrava
2004/05 AC Sparta Praha

Number of titles
11 AC Sparta Praha
05 SK Slavia Praha
01 FC Baník Ostrava
01 FC Slovan Liberec

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Well, Sparta was just too strong this season on national level. We'll
probably see them back once more in next season's CL groups.
For Tomas Jun, it's time to move abroad.
Maybe Spurs :p

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:05:19 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Mourinho eyes exclusive club

José Mourinho will join an exclusive club currently boasting just two
members if Chelsea win the Champions League next month. Mourinho
clinched the Premiership title with Chelsea on Saturday in his first
season in English football, but the Portuguese manager is already
looking to go one better.

Different sides
Mourinho, who lifted the trophy with Porto last season, will become
only the third man in the 50-year history of European competition to
claim the European Champion Clubs' Cup with two different sides
should Chelsea triumph, a feat only previously achieved by Austrian
Ernst Happel and German Ottmar Hitzfeld.

First man
Happel was the first to do so, steering Feyenoord to victory against
Celtic in 1970 before seeing Hamburger SV defeat Juventus in 1983. In
between, he also took Club Brugge to the 1978 final which they lost 1-
0 to reigning champions Liverpool.

Penalty success
Hitzfeld's successes came in 1997, when his Borussia Dortmund team
stunned favourites Juventus 3-1, and 2001 as Bayern München overcame
Valencia on penalties. Like Happel, Hitzfeld's second triumph was
made all the sweeter for having experienced the pain of losing a
final, watching in disbelief as Manchester United scored twice in the
dying minutes to beat Bayern 2-1 in Barcelona in 1999.

Mixed feelings
However, Hitzfeld appears to have mixed feelings about Mourinho
emulating his and Happel's achievement. Before his former club Bayern
played Chelsea in the quarter-finals he gave his opinion of the
Portuguese coach. "He is among the best managers in the world.
Winning the Champions League with Porto was sensational and now he
has guided Chelsea to the brink of the English title in his first
season. But José Mourinho is an arrogant coach. I have met him and we
are not going to be friends."

Tough streak
Hitzfeld could never be accused of arrogance but he is a demanding
coach whose tough streak brought league and European glory to
Dortmund and Bayern. Once asked to describe himself, he said: "I'm
the boss, and an authoritarian one. If you want to have a winning
attitude you have to win every match – even in training."

Strict attitude
Happel, who died in 1992 aged 66, also had a strict uncompromising
attitude, enjoying success as both player and coach. But after
securing the 1970 European Cup with Feyenoord, he suffered four major
disappointments. In 1976 Club Brugge lost to Liverpool in the UEFA
Cup final before falling to Liverpool again in the European Cup
showpiece two years later. A few weeks after he guided the
Netherlands to the World Cup final in Argentina but had to be content
with another silver medal as the hosts recorded an extra-time victory.

Magath goal
In 1982 he was on the losing side again when Hamburg went down to
Sven-Göran Eriksson's IFK Göteborg in the UEFA Cup final. But after
13 years Happel's luck finally changed, Felix Magath's early goal
giving Hamburg a 1-0 win in the 1983 European Cup final against
Juventus.

Magath out
Mourinho ended coach Magath's interest in this year's competition as
Chelsea ousted Bayern in the last round, giving Mourinho the chance
to emulate the success of Magath's former boss. If he does, it is
doubtful he will celebrate in the same way Happel used to relax after
matches. Win or lose, he would spend time at his local bar playing
cards with old friends. Still hugely revered in Austria, the Prater
Stadium was renamed after him following his death. Hitzfeld and
Mourinho may have to wait a little longer to join that particular
club.

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Happel is THE God in Bruges :)

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:15:16 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Gilardino jumps into contention

Parma may be struggling in Serie A, but Alberto Gilardino has lifted
himself into the reckoning for the ESM Golden Shoe after moving into
joint-fourth position with four goals in the UEFA Cup contenders'
remarkable 6-4 victory against AS Livorno on Sunday. Cristiano
Lucarelli was also on target four times for the losing side and moved
up to joint-sixth.

Henry ahead
Neither of the top two scored this week, meaning holder Thierry Henry
stays six points - and three goals - clear in his bid to become the
first man to retain the title since it was first awarded in 1996/97.
Marek Mintál remains second but has been caught by Samuel Eto'o
following the Cameroonian's superb strike against Albacete Balompié.
He now has four games left to catch Henry, who himself has four
matches remaining, while Mintal has three.

1. Thierry Henry (Arsenal FC-ENG).................25x2.....50
2. Marek Mintál (1. FC Nürnberg-GER)..............22x2.....44
2. Samuel Eto'o (FC Barcelona-ESP)................22x2.....44
4. Alberto Gilardino (Parma FC-ITA)...............21x2.....42
4. Vincenzo Montella (AS Roma-ITA)................21x2.....42
6. Andrew Johnson (Crystal Palace FC-ENG).........20x2.....40
6. Cristiano Lucarelli (Livorno Calcio-ITA).......20x2.....40
6. Diego Forlán (Villarreal CF-ESP)...............20x2.....40
9. Liedson (Sporting Clube de Portugal-POR).......25x1.5...37.5
9. Fatih Tekke (Trabzonspor-TUR)..................25x1.5...37.5
11.Ricardo Oliveira (Real Betis Balompié-ESP).....18x2.....36
11.Dirk Kuijt (Feyenoord-NED).....................24x1.5...36
11.Ronaldo (Real Madrid CF-ESP)...................18x2.....36
14.Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus FC-ITA).......3x1.5..15x2..34.5
14.John Hartson (Celtic FC-SCO)...................23x1.5...34.5
14.Alex (Fenerbahçe SK-TUR).......................23x1.5...34.5
14.Martin Kamburov (PFC Lokomotiv Plovdiv-BUL)....23x1.5...34.5
18.Julio Bapista (Sevilla FC-ESP).................17x2.....34
18.Marcelinho (Hertha BSC Berlin-GER).............17x2.....34
18.Alexander Frei (Stade Rennais FC-FRA)..........17x2.....34
18.Luca Toni (US Città di Palermo-ITA)............17x2.....34
18.Marc Lloyd-Williams (Total Netw. Solutions-WAL)34x1.....34*
*Season finished

Last updated: 2 May 2005

Only the leading five countries (Spain, Italy, Germany, France and
England) on the UEFA Ranking have two as their multiplier. This is to
emphasise the difference in international performance level between
clubs from those countries and those from the other countries.

A player cannot first play in a summer league (eg Norway) and then in
a winter league (eg Spain) and combine the points total for each
season.

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Who said that there were not many goals in the Serie A??
As Henry won't score a lot anymore this season, it might still be
exciting to see who will win this one!

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:53:55 -0000
From: "Nick Morris"
Subject: Re: World Cup Tickets

the way it should be is 33% to one team, 33% to the other team, 25% to
sponsors/organisers and 8% to the general public. having each country
f.a only getting 8% is insulting......thats 3,200 in a 40,000 capacity
stadium. thats about what we give to away fans here! disgusting! it
should be my way for sure. vote me in people!

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> Actually, they are trying to level the availablility of tickets for
> all people involved not just to those who have the most money and can
> pay the most. By making it Team Specific then the fans will get
> their chance. The country's football association is allocated 8% of
> the tickets for their matches.
>
> Well my hopes ride on Romania it looks like. (However I didn't get a
> confirmation for that even though it shows in my applications) And
> if that doesn't work out then Latvia whom I did get a confirmation
> for. Slim chances for tickets in either situation. Else, it's buddy
> up to the US Soccer federation.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> wrote:
> > well all i will say is im disappointed with how fifa do this. there
> > should be no tickets available to buy at all yet. tickets should
> only
> > be sold once we know who is playing what matches. its a disgrace
> and a
> > complete disrespect to the competition with how its done. i want it
> > done so that the 2 countries involved get their choice of taking up
> > the allocation of tickets and only once its done that then it goes
> on
> > general sales. sure if they want sponsors to have 25% then
> fine......i
> > dont think its right but not alot u can do about it really. i just
> > dont want no johhny foreigner being at an england game and not
> putting
> > as much passion into the game as an englishman would. i just want
> the
> > true fans to be there.........what this leads to with how they do it
> > is touts making a huge profit and the genuine fans getting fucked
> > over. vote me in as fifa president now and i will sort out this big
> mess!
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"
> wrote:
> > > I've been trying for 2 hours to get an application for Tickets
> turned
> > > in. No such luck. Looks like 40 countries ticket series are
> sold out
> > > now. I'm going to be looking high and low for tickets it seems.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:57:58 -0000
From: "Nick Morris"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

yup we all were. not much to say but villa got their arse raped all
over the place in that game. domination with little come back from the
villa!

nick

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> You were all at the match? Dale, we need the blow by blow account!
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
> wrote:
> > yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a sniff
> of
> > getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th then
> > villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th to
> get
> > above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season and
> good
> > job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the match
> > and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck up to
> > charlton later tho!
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> > wrote:
> > > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> > >
> > > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive with
> a
> > 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> > >
> > > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with Mali
> > striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
> Ledley
> > King's 18th-minute effort.
> > >
> > > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-kick
> in
> > the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> > stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and Stephen
> > Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a fifth in
> > the last minute.
> > >
> > > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the first two
> > minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the right and
> > planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
> away.
> > >
> > >
> > > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an early
> > save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot drive
> that
> > the England man did well to save low to his right.
> > >
> > >
> > > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the fifth
> > minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside the
> box,
> > but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
> taking
> > the lead.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high towards
> > Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam Ridgewell
> and
> > fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury of the
> > Villa players.
> > >
> > >
> > > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> > Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he chased
> the
> > official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his protest.
> > >
> > >
> > > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes alive,
> > were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left on the
> > bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie Keane in
> > attack.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper King.
> > Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded off
> > Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
> advantage of
> > the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> > >
> > >
> > > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post when
> the
> > former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> > >
> > >
> > > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in the
> 26th
> > minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute and the
> > Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into the top
> > corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when Michael
> Dawson
> > was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> > >
> > >
> > > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick powerfully
> > down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> > >
> > >
> > > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the deficit
> still
> > further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and forced
> > Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> > >
> > >
> > > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they collided
> > inside the penalty area and both players required treatment before
> > they could continue.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> > substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek Cerny.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in the
> > collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped around
> > the perimeter of the pitch.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach with a
> > tremendous 25-yard strike.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence backed off,
> > Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned into the
> net
> > off the underside of the crossbar.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe and
> > Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for Kanoute
> and
> > Keane.
> > >
> > >
> > > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute when
> > Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
> crossbar.
> > >
> > >
> > > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from time
> as
> > Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> > >
> > > Well, this was a close match
> > >
> > > Aid
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:08:28 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Re: World Cup Tickets

Yep, it should be at least 25% for each team. But we already
discussed this in the past, so I won't go further into that.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
wrote:
> the way it should be is 33% to one team, 33% to the other team, 25%
to
> sponsors/organisers and 8% to the general public. having each
country
> f.a only getting 8% is insulting......thats 3,200 in a 40,000
capacity
> stadium. thats about what we give to away fans here! disgusting! it
> should be my way for sure. vote me in people!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"
wrote:
> > Actually, they are trying to level the availablility of tickets
for
> > all people involved not just to those who have the most money and
can
> > pay the most. By making it Team Specific then the fans will get
> > their chance. The country's football association is allocated 8%
of
> > the tickets for their matches.
> >
> > Well my hopes ride on Romania it looks like. (However I didn't
get a
> > confirmation for that even though it shows in my applications)
And
> > if that doesn't work out then Latvia whom I did get a
confirmation
> > for. Slim chances for tickets in either situation. Else, it's
buddy
> > up to the US Soccer federation.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > wrote:
> > > well all i will say is im disappointed with how fifa do this.
there
> > > should be no tickets available to buy at all yet. tickets
should
> > only
> > > be sold once we know who is playing what matches. its a
disgrace
> > and a
> > > complete disrespect to the competition with how its done. i
want it
> > > done so that the 2 countries involved get their choice of
taking up
> > > the allocation of tickets and only once its done that then it
goes
> > on
> > > general sales. sure if they want sponsors to have 25% then
> > fine......i
> > > dont think its right but not alot u can do about it really. i
just
> > > dont want no johhny foreigner being at an england game and not
> > putting
> > > as much passion into the game as an englishman would. i just
want
> > the
> > > true fans to be there.........what this leads to with how they
do it
> > > is touts making a huge profit and the genuine fans getting
fucked
> > > over. vote me in as fifa president now and i will sort out this
big
> > mess!
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"

> > wrote:
> > > > I've been trying for 2 hours to get an application for
Tickets
> > turned
> > > > in. No such luck. Looks like 40 countries ticket series are
> > sold out
> > > > now. I'm going to be looking high and low for tickets it
seems.

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:19:30 -0000
From: "jer_vanlint"
Subject: Brugge on the brink

Club Brugge are one win away from regaining the Belgian First
Division title after they defeated Excelsior Mouscron, while
defending champions RSC Anderlecht drew 2-2 at KVC Westerlo.

Rapid response
Hannu Tihinen gave Anderlecht a 16th-minute lead, but five minutes
later the home side had turned the game in their favour after Peter
Utaka equalised and Alex Brosque put them in front on 21 minutes.
Westerlo held that advantage until seven minutes from time when a
strike from Mbo Mpenza rescued a point for the visitors.

Super substitute
As a result, Anderlecht have now slipped even further off the pace at
the top after Brugge won at Mouscron. Substitute Boško Balaban scored
the decisive goal with eleven minutes remaining to put Trond
Sollied's outfit eight points clear of Anderlecht, meaning victory
next week at RAEC Mons will guarantee them the title.

Roussel double
Anderlecht are still in danger of missing out on Champions League
football next season, with Standard de Liège now trailing second
place by six points after defeating Sint Truiden 4-1. Three goals in
13 first-half minutes from Cedric Roussel, Sambegou Bangoura and
Wamberto gave Standard a three-goal advantage at the break, before
Roussel scored his second on the hour. Mathieu Béda replied late on
for Sint-Truiden.

Last-gasp equaliser
Standard currently hold third place and a UEFA Cup berth outright,
after KRC Genk drew with relegation-threatened KV Oostende. Mirsad
Beslija and Kevin Vandenbergh had twice put Genk ahead, only for both
leads to be cancelled out by Zephirin Zoko and a last-minute Bjorn De
Wilde strike for Oostende, who had Brian Vandenbergh dismissed on 75
minutes.

Charleroi charge
René Vandereycken's team slipped to fifth after Charleroi SC
leapfrogged them by winning 4-0 at Cercle Brugge, courtesy of Izzet
Akgül's strike, an own goal from Djordje Svetlicic and a Sébastien
Chabaud double.

Mons fall
At the bottom, FC Brussels moved up to 16th and out of the drop zone
after Igor De Camargo's 85th-minute winner defeated Lierse SK 3-2.
Brussels' win and Oostende's draw means Mons move to the basement
after losing 2-0 at KFC Germinal Beerschot.

Wagneau treble
Elsewhere, a goal from Dario Smoje ensured victory for KAA Gent at
KSC Lokeren, while La Louviére won 3-0 against KSK Beveren thanks to
a hat-trick from Wagneau Eloi.

Table:
1. Club Brugge KV.... 31 24 05 02 79-20 77
2. RSC Anderlecht.... 31 21 06 04 68-31 69
3. Standard de Liège. 31 19 06 06 57-27 63
4. Charleroi SC...... 31 18 07 06 44-29 61
5. KRC Genk.......... 31 18 07 06 49-35 61
6. KAA Gent.......... 31 16 05 10 43-32 53
7. La Louviére....... 31 11 08 12 40-34 41
8. KSC Lokeren OV.... 31 10 11 10 33-34 41
9. KVC Westerlo...... 31 11 05 15 33-51 38
10.Cercle Brugge KSV. 31 11 05 15 42-69 38
11.Germinal Beerschot 31 10 06 15 30-40 36
12.Lierse SK......... 31 10 05 16 47-55 35
13.KSK Beveren....... 31 08 07 16 39-52 31
14.Excelsior Mouscron 31 08 06 17 36-42 30
15.Sint-Truiden VV... 31 08 06 17 35-53 30
16.FC Brussels....... 31 08 03 20 28-56 27
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17.KV Oostende....... 31 06 08 17 30-57 26
18.RAEC Mons......... 31 07 04 20 38-54 25

Topscorers:
15 Rune Lange (Club Brugge)
15 Sembegou Bangoura (Standard de Liège)
14 Kevin Vandenbergh (KRC Genk)
14 Nenad Jestrovic (RSC Anderlecht)
14 Mohammed Aliyu Datti (RAEC Mons)

Mouscron-Club Brugge highlights:
http://www.debrugge.be/movie's/moeskroen_cl.wmv

-------------------------------------

Whoooo Super Bosko!! :p
We'll be champion this friday at Mons.
But hopefully we will loose so we can take the title the following
weekend at home against Anderlecht :p

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:30:00 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: World Cup Tickets

Unless you are one lucky lucky bastard, the only way is through black
market :(

---

In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote:
> I've been trying for 2 hours to get an application for Tickets turned
> in. No such luck. Looks like 40 countries ticket series are sold
out
> now. I'm going to be looking high and low for tickets it seems.

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:31:46 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

"Dave_Lightning_98"
--

- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
wrote:
> lol dunno what is up with dave lightning?
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "THE FUGITIVE!"
> wrote:
> > Yeah what a fucking disappointment... arrrgh.
> > What's up with "Dave Lightning"?
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
> > wrote:
> > > yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a
sniff of
> > > getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th
then
> > > villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th
to get
> > > above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season
and good
> > > job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the
match
> > > and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck up
to
> > > charlton later tho!
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> > > wrote:
> > > > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> > > >
> > > > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive
with a
> > > 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> > > >
> > > > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with
Mali
> > > striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
Ledley
> > > King's 18th-minute effort.
> > > >
> > > > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-
kick in
> > > the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> > > stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and
Stephen
> > > Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a
fifth in
> > > the last minute.
> > > >
> > > > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the first
two
> > > minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the right
and
> > > planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
away.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an
early
> > > save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot drive
that
> > > the England man did well to save low to his right.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the
fifth
> > > minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside the
box,
> > > but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
taking
> > > the lead.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high towards
> > > Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam
Ridgewell and
> > > fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury of
the
> > > Villa players.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> > > Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he
chased the
> > > official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his
protest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes
alive,
> > > were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left on
the
> > > bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie Keane
in
> > > attack.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper King.
> > > Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded off
> > > Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
advantage of
> > > the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post
when the
> > > former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in
the 26th
> > > minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute and
the
> > > Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into the
top
> > > corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when Michael
Dawson
> > > was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick
powerfully
> > > down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the deficit
still
> > > further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and
forced
> > > Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they collided
> > > inside the penalty area and both players required treatment
before
> > > they could continue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> > > substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek Cerny.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in the
> > > collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped
around
> > > the perimeter of the pitch.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach
with a
> > > tremendous 25-yard strike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence backed
off,
> > > Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned into
the net
> > > off the underside of the crossbar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe
and
> > > Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for
Kanoute and
> > > Keane.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute
when
> > > Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
crossbar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from
time as
> > > Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> > > >
> > > > Well, this was a close match
> > > >
> > > > Aid
> > > >
> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:32:46 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: World Cup Tickets

My sentiments exactly.
What a fucking joke. Who else would want to buy random tickets for
high prices other than... surprise, surprise, scalpers??

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- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
wrote:
> well all i will say is im disappointed with how fifa do this. there
> should be no tickets available to buy at all yet. tickets should
only
> be sold once we know who is playing what matches. its a disgrace
and a
> complete disrespect to the competition with how its done. i want it
> done so that the 2 countries involved get their choice of taking up
> the allocation of tickets and only once its done that then it goes
on
> general sales. sure if they want sponsors to have 25% then
fine......i
> dont think its right but not alot u can do about it really. i just
> dont want no johhny foreigner being at an england game and not
putting
> as much passion into the game as an englishman would. i just want
the
> true fans to be there.........what this leads to with how they do it
> is touts making a huge profit and the genuine fans getting fucked
> over. vote me in as fifa president now and i will sort out this big
mess!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"
wrote:
> > I've been trying for 2 hours to get an application for Tickets
turned
> > in. No such luck. Looks like 40 countries ticket series are
sold out
> > now. I'm going to be looking high and low for tickets it seems.

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:35:23 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Do you really want a piece of that?

Australia begs to differ :))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> In no other region do you have to play at least two world cup
> champions (if you are not Brazil Argentina or Uruguay, you face 3).
> In no toehr region do you have to play in the same group in places
> like Buenos Aires, Rio, Montevideo and La Paz. In no other region
> do you face such plane rides. I agree, this is the toughest region.
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
> wrote:
> >
> > Juan Arango says the South American WC Qualifiers are the hardest
> in
> > the world. Bar none. "Why?" you might ask? Well that's what I am
> here
> > for, says Juan...
> >
> > After talking to several people during a South Beach getaway, I
> came
> > back seeing where the football world really had their eyes on. I
> > decided to stop at a local bar to catch up on some notes for this
> > week's show, that along with a nice cold beer.
> >
> > The people in the bar were talking about how Italy and the Dutch
> had
> > a tough time in their groups. Boy that made my head snap around.
> > These are the same types of individuals who believe that if the
> > team's colors weren't azzura or rossoneri, that it is not calcio,
> it
> > is just a bunch of Neanderthals kicking a "round thing". I heard
> how
> > Spain's group is so complicated, and their chance to qualify
looks
> > bleak, I could not believe what I was hearing. The kicker was
when
> an
> > alleged football fan said Europe is the toughest World Cup
> qualifying
> > region in the world. I hear statements that European national
> teams
> > have the toughest schedules of all, because of their travel
> > schedules. That jetlag was a defining factor for many players to
> not
> > want to play on their national team. Europeans have too many
games
> to
> > play in addition to their national team duties. The fact that
> > Amsterdam ArenA is one of the most intimidating venues in all of
> > Europe? On and on and on it went. I was crazy hearing about
> > the "suffering" that European national team players
> > endure. "WHAT!!!!" I was asphyxiating from the verbal diarrhea
> being
> > deluged that evening. So I did what every other sane person would
> do -
> > walk out in complete disgust.
> >
> > No, I am not denigrating the football player. It is a hard
> profession
> > that most fans do not appreciate fully. What I do not appreciate
> is
> > the fact that these individuals do not give importance to the
> South
> > American qualifiers. Quite the opposite, based on these
qualifiers
> > the Milans and Real Madrids of the world are able to reload
> talent.
> > These players, the South Americans (along with any other player
> that
> > has to travel long distances to play for their national team)
have
> it
> > hard. This is why the CONMEBOL qualifying tournament is so
> gruelling
> > and yet so intense.
> >
> >
> > 1. Jetlag.
> > The definition given by Webster's dictionary is "A temporary
> > disruption of bodily rhythms caused by high-speed travel across
> > several time zones typically in a jet aircraft." Take a 9-10 hour
> > flight, fly through 5-7 time zones; after that go practice with a
> > team and play 48 hours after that flight. Then when your duty is
> > done, make the same trek back to your club and play the following
> > weekend. In Europe, the longest flight would be 4-5 hours, tops.
> As
> > much as I have traveled in my life, I never heard of people
> > complaining of jetlag after a flight from Madrid to Rome.
> >
> > 2. Acclimatisation.
> > Paraguay took 10 days to acclimatise to the conditions that they
> were
> > going to face when they played in La Paz, Bolivia. Playing a club
> > match, let's forget about a World Cup Qualifier, at 3700 meters
> > (12,139 feet) above sea level is a daunting task for any
> footballer.
> > Not only that, based on the way the CONMEBOL has their qualifying
> set
> > up, they have to play 48-72 hours later. That takes a toll on a
> body,
> > regardless of physical condition.
> > This is what makes it more complicated to get through for a
> player.
> > The back-to-back part of it is what makes this qualifier so
> > interesting and unique at the same time. Teams might have to play
> in
> > La Paz, Quito or Lima (the three high altitude venues) on a
> Saturday
> > night and then go to Barranquilla. This is a venue that offers
> > suffocating on-field temperatures that can reach up to 44-45
> degrees
> > Celsius (that is 112-114 degrees Fahrenheit for my American
> readers).
> > This is the reason why the Cafeteros made Barranquilla their home
> > once again for the qualifiers, after an unsuccessful stint in
> Bogotá.
> > What if you were to play in any city in Brazil? Asunción is the
> same
> > story; just add the stifling humidity that the Guaraní capital
> > inflicts upon any visitor.
> > Having to play a game in sizzling Maracaibo or Barranquilla in
> July
> > or August is not the same as playing in Buenos Aires. One reason
> is
> > that in the northern countries, they are experiencing aphelion
> while
> > in the Southern cone they are at the peak of winter solstice.
Well
> > enough with my geography lesson. The point is that there are
> several
> > climates that footballers have to prepare for in a short period
of
> > time in order to play for their national team.
> >
> > 3. Parity.
> > In this World Cup region, every team is still mathematically
alive
> > for the last three spots (the last spot would be a playoff
against
> > Australia), with eleven games played. In Europe, most regions are
> > already defined, or at least there is a good idea as to who is in
> and
> > who is getting ready for 2010. In the CONCACAF region, there is
an
> > idea as to who will move on and who will be that team that will
> play
> > the fourth Asian squad. Obviously, in the top two spots, there
are
> no
> > doubts as to which teams belong there.
> >
> > 4. Duration.
> > No qualifiers last longer than the ones in South America. They
> > started in November 2003 and will end November 2005. If you can
> tell
> > me that a team can maintain a particular level of continuity
> during
> > this entire period of time, then there is no need for me to
> continue.
> > Even Brazil and Argentina have their blips and there is nothing
> that
> > a national team coach can do. The advantage for a few clubs is
> that
> > they can always be in it, they are not really out of it.
> >
> > 5. Continuity.
> > In this tournament there is a great deal.
> >
> > 6. Hunger.
> > Remember that this is the stepping stone to reaching the Big
Show.
> > Many of these qualifiers make or break your career on the
> > international level. The CONMEBOL qualifiers are what help
several
> > players trampoline across the Atlantic for their huge payday. Is
> > there a hunger? Oh yeah!
> >
> > 7. Rivalries.
> > Some of the greatest rivalries of all-time are in this region.
> Let's
> > Start with the more traditional ones:
> >
> > a. Brazil- Argentina:
> > Probably the biggest rivalry in International football right now.
> > They are the apex of the footballing world right now. If they
were
> in
> > Europe, they could qualify in ANY group there. Who can forget the
> > memorable game in the 1990 World Cup, where Maradona snatched
> victory
> > from the jaws of defeat. How about more recently, when Adriano's
> game-
> > tying goal in the waning seconds of regulation led to a Scratch
> > victory in the 2004 Copa America (aka The Adriano Coming Out
> Party).
> >
> > b. Uruguay- Argentina:
> > The oldest rivalry in football history. A history that
encompasses
> > over a century of memories. The "River Plate" derby has been
> played a
> > total of 190 times. The Albicelestes have won 86 times to the
> > Charruas 57, and have drawn a total of 47 times. Who can ever
> forget
> > the 1986 World Cup when Diego Maradona faced off against Enzo
> > Francescoli, or the Uruguayan 2-0 victory over the Argentines in
> the
> > 1989 Copa America.
> >
> > c. Brazil- Uruguay:
> > Although many of us didn't even exist then, the most memorable
> game
> > in this rivalry was the 2-1 Charrua victory over the
verdeamarelha
> at
> > the Maracaná in the finals of the 1950 World Cup.
> >
> > d. Chile- Peru:
> > A rivalry that transcends the football pitch and does so in issue
> > that has come from wars to political maneuverings.
> >
> > e. Colombia- Venezuela:
> > This is what many people in the know consider the newest rivalry
> in
> > the South American continent? More based on sociopolitical strife
> > than football parity, times are changing as Venezuela has not
lost
> to
> > the Cafeteros in their past three matches.
> >
> >
> > So what FIFA tried to do a few years back to take away a spot
from
> > this region was preposterous. What many do by belittling the
> > Herculean effort that needs to be made in order to have a player
> lead
> > his respective team to the Promised Land. So if any European
teams
> > would like to switch qualifying regions, there are ten teams that
> > would love to take your offer up.

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:35:55 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Nick beats Dave up ;)

I could use a blow job about now to end my misery.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> You were all at the match? Dale, we need the blow by blow account!
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Dave_Lightning_98
> wrote:
> > yep a match we dominated pretty much throughout. they had a sniff
> of
> > getting back into the game at 3-1, but once reid hit the 4th then
> > villa just gave up completely big time and we got a vital 5th to
> get
> > above boro on goal difference. our best display of the season and
> good
> > job it was at a vital time. me, dave and dale were all at the
match
> > and it was a good laugh. shame we couldnt see the scum fuck up to
> > charlton later tho!
> >
> > nick
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> > wrote:
> > > Tottenham Hotspur 5 Aston Villa 1
> > >
> > > Rampant Tottenham kept their European hopes very much alive
with
> a
> > 5-1 victory over clueless Aston Villa at White Hart Lane.
> > >
> > > Spurs raced into a three-goal lead in the opening half with Mali
> > striker Fredi Kanoute hitting a double either side of skipper
> Ledley
> > King's 18th-minute effort.
> > >
> > > Villa grabbed a lifeline when Gareth Barry converted a spot-
kick
> in
> > the closing stages of the first half but Andy Reid unleashed a
> > stunning 25-yard shot in the 66th minute for the fourth and
Stephen
> > Kelly put Spurs seventh in the Barclays Premiership with a fifth
in
> > the last minute.
> > >
> > > Tottenham had almost stunned their visitors inside the first two
> > minutes when King forced Stefan Postma into a fine save.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs skipper met Reid's inswinging corner from the right
and
> > planted a firm header goalwards which Postma did well to palm
> away.
> > >
> > >
> > > Spurs goalkeeper Paul Robinson had also been forced into an
early
> > save as Steve Davis burst through to unleash a right-foot drive
> that
> > the England man did well to save low to his right.
> > >
> > >
> > > Villa were furious they were not awarded a penalty in the fifth
> > minute when Erik Edman appeared to foul Mark Delaney inside the
> box,
> > but within seconds Spurs capitalised on their good fortune by
> taking
> > the lead.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robinson quickly collected the ball and punted it high towards
> > Kanoute. The Mali international got the better of Liam Ridgewell
> and
> > fired home via the inside of the right-hand post to the fury of
the
> > Villa players.
> > >
> > >
> > > Villa goalkeeper Postma was so incensed that referee Mark
> > Clattenburg had failed to award Villa a spot-kick that he chased
> the
> > official to the centre circle. He was duly booked for his
protest.
> > >
> > >
> > > Spurs, needing a victory to keep their slim UEFA Cup hopes
alive,
> > were without England striker Jermain Defoe. He had been left on
the
> > bench by coach Martin Jol in favour of Kanoute and Robbie Keane in
> > attack.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tottenham were two up in the 18th minute through skipper King.
> > Reid's 20-yard shot through a crowded penalty area rebounded off
> > Villa's left-hand post and when Sean Davis failed to take
> advantage of
> > the loose ball, King tapped home from six yards.
> > >
> > >
> > > Davis forced Postma into another fine save at his near post
when
> the
> > former Fulham midfielder got on the end of a Kanoute cross.
> > >
> > >
> > > But it did not matter because Spurs increased their lead in the
> 26th
> > minute when Villa failed to clear the subsequent corner.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keane's attempted turn and shot fell to kindly to Kanoute and
the
> > Mali man struck his second of the game by firing high into the top
> > corner from the angle of the six-yard box.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 43rd minute Villa got back into the game when Michael
> Dawson
> > was adjudged to have handled a shot by Juan Pablo Angel.
> > >
> > >
> > > Barry gave Robinson no chance by firing the spot-kick powerfully
> > down the middle and into the roof of the net.
> > >
> > >
> > > However, in the 50th minute, Villa almost reduced the deficit
> still
> > further when Darius Vassell burst into the penalty area and forced
> > Robinson into a one-handed save with a powerful shot.
> > >
> > >
> > > On the hour, Robinson and Vassell were hurt when they collided
> > inside the penalty area and both players required treatment before
> > they could continue.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robinson was clearly struggling and Spurs took no chances by
> > substituting the England goalkeeper for understudy Radek Cerny.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs number one looked to have hurt his right knee in the
> > collision with Vassell and was warmly applauded as he limped
around
> > the perimeter of the pitch.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 66th minute, Reid put the game beyond Villa's reach with
a
> > tremendous 25-yard strike.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Spurs winger broke clear and as the Villa defence backed
off,
> > Reid left fly with a superb left-foot drive that cannoned into
the
> net
> > off the underside of the crossbar.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 75th minute Spurs coach Jol opted to introduce Defoe and
> > Egyptian forward Mido into the action as replacements for Kanoute
> and
> > Keane.
> > >
> > >
> > > The changes almost brought Spurs a fifth in the 83rd minute when
> > Defoe's 18-yard effort was deflected on to the top of the
> crossbar.
> > >
> > >
> > > The striker was then thwarted by Postma three minutes from time
> as
> > Spurs cut through the Villa defence with ease.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly added a fifth for Spurs in the final minute.
> > >
> > > Well, this was a close match
> > >
> > > Aid
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:34:32 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Zebra gives birth to foal sired by donkey

hahaha hillarious

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- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Manuel"
wrote:
>
> LOL!!!!!
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Bagley
> wrote:
> > It's male. But what is it? A zonkey? A deebra? That's the debate
> in Barbados since a zebra gave birth to a foal sired by a donkey.
> >
> > "It's really funny and a little bit freaky," said Natalie Harvey,
> a 29-year-old waitress. "I was stunned to hear about such a weird
> thing happening here."
> >
> > While zebra hybrids are not uncommon, most Barbadians have never
> seen anything like Alex.
> >
> > His mother, Allison, is one of two zebras brought to the
Caribbean
> island from Botswana, in southern Africa, in the early 1990s. The
> other is George and both live at Highland, a six-acre ranch where
> goats, sheep, ducks and donkeys roam free.
> > George, however, suffered a long illness, and Allison became
> friendly with a donkey.
> > "We knew she was with foal but were not sure who the father was,"
> said Philip Atwell, the head of Highland ranch.
> > As for George, he seems to get along well with his rival's
> offspring. Ranchers hope Allison will eventually mate with George,
> who is now healthy, Atwell said.
> > In the meantime, Alex is the talk of Barbados.
> > "It's easier for a zebra to give birth to a donkey than for
either
> of these teams to score a goal!" a frustrated fan shouted during a
> recent soccer match, to roars of laughter.
> >
> > Enough Said
> >
> > Aid
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:38:53 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Mourinho eyes exclusive club

Well it's possible.
I think whoever wins between Liverpool and Chelsea will win the cup.
AC Milan didn't look too strong but did manage to luck out. We'll
see.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
wrote:
> José Mourinho will join an exclusive club currently boasting just
two
> members if Chelsea win the Champions League next month. Mourinho
> clinched the Premiership title with Chelsea on Saturday in his
first
> season in English football, but the Portuguese manager is already
> looking to go one better.
>
> Different sides
> Mourinho, who lifted the trophy with Porto last season, will become
> only the third man in the 50-year history of European competition
to
> claim the European Champion Clubs' Cup with two different sides
> should Chelsea triumph, a feat only previously achieved by Austrian
> Ernst Happel and German Ottmar Hitzfeld.
>
> First man
> Happel was the first to do so, steering Feyenoord to victory
against
> Celtic in 1970 before seeing Hamburger SV defeat Juventus in 1983.
In
> between, he also took Club Brugge to the 1978 final which they lost
1-
> 0 to reigning champions Liverpool.
>
> Penalty success
> Hitzfeld's successes came in 1997, when his Borussia Dortmund team
> stunned favourites Juventus 3-1, and 2001 as Bayern München
overcame
> Valencia on penalties. Like Happel, Hitzfeld's second triumph was
> made all the sweeter for having experienced the pain of losing a
> final, watching in disbelief as Manchester United scored twice in
the
> dying minutes to beat Bayern 2-1 in Barcelona in 1999.
>
> Mixed feelings
> However, Hitzfeld appears to have mixed feelings about Mourinho
> emulating his and Happel's achievement. Before his former club
Bayern
> played Chelsea in the quarter-finals he gave his opinion of the
> Portuguese coach. "He is among the best managers in the world.
> Winning the Champions League with Porto was sensational and now he
> has guided Chelsea to the brink of the English title in his first
> season. But José Mourinho is an arrogant coach. I have met him and
we
> are not going to be friends."
>
> Tough streak
> Hitzfeld could never be accused of arrogance but he is a demanding
> coach whose tough streak brought league and European glory to
> Dortmund and Bayern. Once asked to describe himself, he said: "I'm
> the boss, and an authoritarian one. If you want to have a winning
> attitude you have to win every match – even in training."
>
> Strict attitude
> Happel, who died in 1992 aged 66, also had a strict uncompromising
> attitude, enjoying success as both player and coach. But after
> securing the 1970 European Cup with Feyenoord, he suffered four
major
> disappointments. In 1976 Club Brugge lost to Liverpool in the UEFA
> Cup final before falling to Liverpool again in the European Cup
> showpiece two years later. A few weeks after he guided the
> Netherlands to the World Cup final in Argentina but had to be
content
> with another silver medal as the hosts recorded an extra-time
victory.
>
> Magath goal
> In 1982 he was on the losing side again when Hamburg went down to
> Sven-Göran Eriksson's IFK Göteborg in the UEFA Cup final. But after
> 13 years Happel's luck finally changed, Felix Magath's early goal
> giving Hamburg a 1-0 win in the 1983 European Cup final against
> Juventus.
>
> Magath out
> Mourinho ended coach Magath's interest in this year's competition
as
> Chelsea ousted Bayern in the last round, giving Mourinho the chance
> to emulate the success of Magath's former boss. If he does, it is
> doubtful he will celebrate in the same way Happel used to relax
after
> matches. Win or lose, he would spend time at his local bar playing
> cards with old friends. Still hugely revered in Austria, the Prater
> Stadium was renamed after him following his death. Hitzfeld and
> Mourinho may have to wait a little longer to join that particular
> club.
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Happel is THE God in Bruges :)

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:39:45 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: World Cup Tickets

Only if I get a full assortment of bitches and hos for my support.

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
wrote:
> the way it should be is 33% to one team, 33% to the other team, 25%
to
> sponsors/organisers and 8% to the general public. having each
country
> f.a only getting 8% is insulting......thats 3,200 in a 40,000
capacity
> stadium. thats about what we give to away fans here! disgusting! it
> should be my way for sure. vote me in people!
>
> nick
>
> --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"
wrote:
> > Actually, they are trying to level the availablility of tickets
for
> > all people involved not just to those who have the most money and
can
> > pay the most. By making it Team Specific then the fans will get
> > their chance. The country's football association is allocated 8%
of
> > the tickets for their matches.
> >
> > Well my hopes ride on Romania it looks like. (However I didn't
get a
> > confirmation for that even though it shows in my applications)
And
> > if that doesn't work out then Latvia whom I did get a
confirmation
> > for. Slim chances for tickets in either situation. Else, it's
buddy
> > up to the US Soccer federation.
> >
> > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Morris"
> > wrote:
> > > well all i will say is im disappointed with how fifa do this.
there
> > > should be no tickets available to buy at all yet. tickets
should
> > only
> > > be sold once we know who is playing what matches. its a
disgrace
> > and a
> > > complete disrespect to the competition with how its done. i
want it
> > > done so that the 2 countries involved get their choice of
taking up
> > > the allocation of tickets and only once its done that then it
goes
> > on
> > > general sales. sure if they want sponsors to have 25% then
> > fine......i
> > > dont think its right but not alot u can do about it really. i
just
> > > dont want no johhny foreigner being at an england game and not
> > putting
> > > as much passion into the game as an englishman would. i just
want
> > the
> > > true fans to be there.........what this leads to with how they
do it
> > > is touts making a huge profit and the genuine fans getting
fucked
> > > over. vote me in as fifa president now and i will sort out this
big
> > mess!
> > >
> > > nick
> > >
> > > --- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"

> > wrote:
> > > > I've been trying for 2 hours to get an application for
Tickets
> > turned
> > > > in. No such luck. Looks like 40 countries ticket series are
> > sold out
> > > > now. I'm going to be looking high and low for tickets it
seems.

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:41:34 -0000
From: "THE FUGITIVE!"
Subject: Re: Brugge on the brink

I bet you just can't wait until the next Villa reject turns up :))

--- In worldsoccerclub2@yahoogroups.com, "jer_vanlint"
wrote:
> Club Brugge are one win away from regaining the Belgian First
> Division title after they defeated Excelsior Mouscron, while
> defending champions RSC Anderlecht drew 2-2 at KVC Westerlo.
>
> Rapid response
> Hannu Tihinen gave Anderlecht a 16th-minute lead, but five minutes
> later the home side had turned the game in their favour after Peter
> Utaka equalised and Alex Brosque put them in front on 21 minutes.
> Westerlo held that advantage until seven minutes from time when a
> strike from Mbo Mpenza rescued a point for the visitors.
>
> Super substitute
> As a result, Anderlecht have now slipped even further off the pace
at
> the top after Brugge won at Mouscron. Substitute Boško Balaban
scored
> the decisive goal with eleven minutes remaining to put Trond
> Sollied's outfit eight points clear of Anderlecht, meaning victory
> next week at RAEC Mons will guarantee them the title.
>
> Roussel double
> Anderlecht are still in danger of missing out on Champions League
> football next season, with Standard de Liège now trailing second
> place by six points after defeating Sint Truiden 4-1. Three goals
in
> 13 first-half minutes from Cedric Roussel, Sambegou Bangoura and
> Wamberto gave Standard a three-goal advantage at the break, before
> Roussel scored his second on the hour. Mathieu Béda replied late on
> for Sint-Truiden.
>
> Last-gasp equaliser
> Standard currently hold third place and a UEFA Cup berth outright,
> after KRC Genk drew with relegation-threatened KV Oostende. Mirsad
> Beslija and Kevin Vandenbergh had twice put Genk ahead, only for
both
> leads to be cancelled out by Zephirin Zoko and a last-minute Bjorn
De
> Wilde strike for Oostende, who had Brian Vandenbergh dismissed on
75
> minutes.
>
> Charleroi charge
> René Vandereycken's team slipped to fifth after Charleroi SC
> leapfrogged them by winning 4-0 at Cercle Brugge, courtesy of Izzet
> Akgül's strike, an own goal from Djordje Svetlicic and a Sébastien
> Chabaud double.
>
> Mons fall
> At the bottom, FC Brussels moved up to 16th and out of the drop
zone
> after Igor De Camargo's 85th-minute winner defeated Lierse SK 3-2.
> Brussels' win and Oostende's draw means Mons move to the basement
> after losing 2-0 at KFC Germinal Beerschot.
>
> Wagneau treble
> Elsewhere, a goal from Dario Smoje ensured victory for KAA Gent at
> KSC Lokeren, while La Louviére won 3-0 against KSK Beveren thanks
to
> a hat-trick from Wagneau Eloi.
>
>
> Table:
> 1. Club Brugge KV.... 31 24 05 02 79-20 77
> 2. RSC Anderlecht.... 31 21 06 04 68-31 69
> 3. Standard de Liège. 31 19 06 06 57-27 63
> 4. Charleroi SC...... 31 18 07 06 44-29 61
> 5. KRC Genk.......... 31 18 07 06 49-35 61
> 6. KAA Gent.......... 31 16 05 10 43-32 53
> 7. La Louviére....... 31 11 08 12 40-34 41
> 8. KSC Lokeren OV.... 31 10 11 10 33-34 41
> 9. KVC Westerlo...... 31 11 05 15 33-51 38
> 10.Cercle Brugge KSV. 31 11 05 15 42-69 38
> 11.Germinal Beerschot 31 10 06 15 30-40 36
> 12.Lierse SK......... 31 10 05 16 47-55 35
> 13.KSK Beveren....... 31 08 07 16 39-52 31
> 14.Excelsior Mouscron 31 08 06 17 36-42 30
> 15.Sint-Truiden VV... 31 08 06 17 35-53 30
> 16.FC Brussels....... 31 08 03 20 28-56 27
> -------------------------------------------
> 17.KV Oostende....... 31 06 08 17 30-57 26
> 18.RAEC Mons......... 31 07 04 20 38-54 25
>
>
> Topscorers:
> 15 Rune Lange (Club Brugge)
> 15 Sembegou Bangoura (Standard de Liège)
> 14 Kevin Vandenbergh (KRC Genk)
> 14 Nenad Jestrovic (RSC Anderlecht)
> 14 Mohammed Aliyu Datti (RAEC Mons)
>
>
> Mouscron-Club Brugge highlights:
> http://www.debrugge.be/movie's/moeskroen_cl.wmv
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Whoooo Super Bosko!! :p
> We'll be champion this friday at Mons.
> But hopefully we will loose so we can take the title the following
> weekend at home against Anderlecht :p

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